The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: okamigirl64 on February 24, 2019, 09:04:56 AM
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I recently uploaded a video about this, but I would love to know what you guys think, especially since I'm more focused on G4 than the earlier gens!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMmJm9dk7BY
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Well... since we have already seen the G5 designs... I'm going to go ahead and start ducking fakies now when I say G6. :D
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Well... since we have already seen the G5 designs... I'm going to go ahead and start ducking fakies now when I say G6. :D
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I want them to be ponies again.
No cloven hooves or donkey tails for the unicorns.
Good QC: Nice plastic, thick, silky hair, no wonky eyes or symbols, no crapping out their tails. The tail goes ABOVE the butt Hasbroken, not IN the butthole.
Wide variety of characters.
Minimal focus on main characters. The occasional re-release is fine, but don't do it like 3.5-4 ever again!
More then one or two hair colors.
Symbol and pose variety.
All species. Earth ponies, pegasus, unicorns, sea ponies, flutter ponies, merponies, wingers, breezies, unipegs, bat ponies.
Distinct new sets.
Returning sets with new ponies, So-Softs, Twinkle Eyes, Pearlies, Jewel Ponies, Water Cuties, etc.
Boys in a wide variety of colors and no chopped manes. Its ridiculous.
A wide variety of colors and hues. Wanna see neon colors again.
Bigger. G1 or G3 sized.
Families.
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Any characters other than the mane 6.
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I just wish for toys that look at least remotely like ponies and come in a variety of poses, colours and designs. :shrug:
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I just wish for toys that look at least remotely like ponies and come in a variety of poses, colours and designs. :shrug:
couldnt say it any better!
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Hmmm. Tough, but interesting question. I guess what I'd most like to see is something new. Something that takes the toyline in a new direction. I'd like to be surprised, so it's kind of hard to think of what they could do to surprise me. :lol: I know I don't need to see a rehash of what's been done before with G1 or G3. But with the popularity of the retro G1s recently, it might be a good time to work some of that into the main toyline.
I feel like we are making a lot of assumptions what G5 will be like based on the leaked concept art, but the truth is that we don't really know what the final product will be like. It's not unusual for something to change drastically from its original concept to what is actually released. With MLP it's almost been a tradition (considering Bonnie Zacherle originally designed the G1 ponies to have natural horse colors. And their individual symbols was seemingly a last minute change).
That said, I see a lot in the leaked G5 stuff that could possibly be interesting and refreshing. It looks like the ponies' world might be more high fantasy than previous generations. Not sure how this is going to work for the toyline, because the ponies are still going to need houses to live in, fashion accessories and stuff like that. But maybe they'll be less modern/human-based in favor of more fantastical and nature-inspired. Maybe like some of the G2 accessories were. (I'm thinking about stuff like the flower shaped stroller and swing for the babies.) Either way, nice accessories is something I'm really hoping for since I feel they've been rather lackluster over the last decade.
I like the idea that the ponies will be more individualized than ever before. Not just different eyes and hair styles, but also different facial structures and body shapes. This would be very unexpected from a toyline that has traditionally been all about reusing the same mold over and over in different colors. But I'd like to see it done at least once. The idea to have unicorns with typical unicorn traits like the tail and cloven horns is very exciting to me. That has never been done before. Would also like to see more MLP styled fantasy creatures and animals joining the herd.
Not sure if all these ideas are something that'll make the toyline appealing to kids, or be cost efficient for Hasbro. But this was about what I wanted to see, and what I want is something new and fresh! :biggrin:
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Good QC: Nice plastic, thick, silky hair, no wonky eyes or symbols, no crapping out their tails. The tail goes ABOVE the butt Hasbroken, not IN the butthole.
THIS 100% Especially the hair, please!
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@Lilja. You mean kind of like Schleich's Bayala line?
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@Lilja. You mean kind of like Schleich's Bayala line?
Hadn't seen those before, but they're very pretty! Taking some inspiration from those designs and "My Little Ponifying" them could make for some really nice-looking toys! :)
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New characters.
No repetition. No more core group.
And for emphasis: NEW characters.
Absolutely NO pinkie pie.
And more emphasis on the TOY line. Less on the animation. I didn't grow up needing to be told how to characterise my ponies by a cartoon. I saw very little MLP animation as a kid and I don't care that that was the case. Although I loved the comics, I never played any games in which my ponies acted out comic stories. Every time I see someone whine about 'show accurate' this or that it makes me cringe inside. With MLP, animation should match toys, not the other way around. Toy accurate animation is better than show accurate toys.
But most especially. NEW CHARACTERS.
And finally, characters that make kids excited, inspired, and imaginative again. Preferably with fewer gender-tied roles and colour schemes than the current gen. Perhaps backcard stories. Perhaps comic tie ins. Perhaps birthdays on the box like G3 had. Things that make the toy itself all encompassing without needing the wider tie-ins.
I like the fact some of G4 went for the action, adventure, fantasy. But hate that the most of it was tied up in pink and purple buildings, enterprise as fashion design and emphasis on pointless parties, galas, celebrations, things involving exploding balloons, confetti and cannons. It's a kid show so 'dark' has to be mediated, but gender roles don't have to be.
Personally I am more for fantasy than slice of life, but I can take either. I just want to see...yeah, you guessed it. NEW characters.
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I totally agree with what has been said- I'd love for ponies to look like ponies again.
Right now I feel as if G4 ponies resemble more of a deer than a pony. I kinda feel biased when I say this (since I grew up with G2/G3) but I adored their designs especially G3 as it brought back a G1 like design while still feeling like a new generation of ponies. G2 switched to a more realistic pony but still had that sense of fantasy and I really enjoyed that design but I think a larger G1/G3 pony design would be great to see again (sounds a little odd but holding a larger pony in hand always feels better than a smaller pony).
I'd love to see a symbol on each side of the pony again, I never understood why G3 ponies had one. Eyes too, I'm not a fan of G4's eyes either, I totally like the idea of different eye shapes but I dislike how big they are.
As Leave a Whisper mentioned, hair quality. I hate brand new dolls/ponies with greasy hair. Also no tinsel hair, I honestly dislike tinsel in doll and pony hair, it sticks out when brushing and doesn't look very appealing- well to me at least. I wish Hasbro would also aim to make a ponies hair like the hairstyle they have, if you can't do that just bring it back to when ponies had horse like hairstyles but some cut longer/shorter than others.
I totally agree with Taffeta too- no more core groups. Those same ponies released over and over again with alternate designs. A few alternate designs for each pony is totally cool but when the same characters are being released all the time it gets repetitive and boring.
I'd like to see 'groups' again for example like Twinkle Eyes, Families and So Softs etc. Scented Ponies would be awesome too! I loved scented dolls when I was little :D Neon colours too for the ponies especially the bright yellow colour that was used for Honeycomb and Surprise.
Full playsets too not just the half playset for example front of the castle, turn it around, and it's just half of the inside of the castle- full 3D building playsets would be fun. Back cards too! I enjoyed learning about my ponies when I bought them as a kid and it always made them feel more life like
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I agree with StrawberrySundance on families and such! I like the G1 style families where the baby pony has a mix of the parents’ symbols.
I would also like a more G1 or G3 style with symbols on both sides.
And Twice as Fancy ponies! But maybe a new spin on TAFs that I see on customs... instead of having the same symbol all over, maybe a “core symbol” for each pony and then TAF could expand on that. An example of what I mean, let’s take G3 Rainbow Dash and she has her usual rainbow, but then her TAF would not just be copies of her symbol (like G1 Merriweather), but has more rainbows and colored stars and clouds mixed in. There wouldn’t have to be a non-TAF version for each pony, I’m just using this as an example so you get what I mean.
And yes, ease up on the core group stuff. More variety.
I’m also not a huge fan of the G4 style sea ponies, I’d like to see them more like the G1s which looked like seahorses. Or maybe a new style that melds both styles into something new.
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A night-themed pony; only really Princess Luna had that for G4, she's the only pony I really like from G4 apart from Cadance (but her body scares me :blink: )
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A night-themed pony; only really Princess Luna had that for G4, she's the only pony I really like from G4 apart from Cadance (but her body scares me :blink: )
Twilight Sky is night themed.
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A night-themed pony; only really Princess Luna had that for G4, she's the only pony I really like from G4 apart from Cadance (but her body scares me :blink: )
Twilight Sky os night themed.
I found him really dull in colours, sadly :(
I said in another thread, but I really hope the voice actress for Sunset Shimmer comes back in G5, if there's a tie-in cartoon. She doesn't need to be Sunset herself; even just give her another pony as I really liked what she did voice-wise
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I'd freaking love it if we could just spur off into chibi/cute aesthetic -- something like tokidoki unicorns. Ponies in a smaller size (to bring the price point down) that has that collect them all feeling... with themes of pastels, foods, animals, etc. And all the gimmicks ~ glow in dark, transparent, color changing, glitter, etcetcetc.
*shrug* Not gonna happen.. as I'm 99% sure we are getting a core #, and it's more likely gonna be revolving around the tv show.
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What I'd want if we had no information and the leaks hadn't come out:
-No main ponies, or at least entirely new main ponies
But of course we know this won't be the case already, so I'll list what I want with the knowledge that we have of G5 already.
-Better balance between Mane 6 and other ponies. Like having one per M6 on the shelves at a time (for kids and collectors just getting into ponies who come in from the G5 cartoon and want a toy of a main character to start off with), but everything else available be other ponies. Be it other characters who appear in the G5 cartoon or toy exclusives, whatever, just ponies that aren't M6
-More exciting gimmicks. What made the constant Mane 6 rereleases even more exhausting in G4 was that there would be so many releases with either no gimmicks or really boring gimmicks like the glitter headbands or the ribbon in the hair, gimmicks next time around should be more exciting and fun. I'd love to see the return of flocked ponies, for example!
-Ponies whose existence is based around being in a gimmick line, much like we saw with Twinkle Eyes or TAFs in G1, where their set gimmicks are just an inherent aspect of the character themselves, as opposed to with G4 just tacking say, a pearlized coat (as much as I do adore pearlized ponies) on the Mane 6 who aren't normally pearly.
-Bigger than G4s, please! A size similar to any previous generations would be fine, but G4s are a bit too small IMO. Based on the body shapes we saw thrown around for G5 in the Dec 2017 leaks, I think G2 size would be nice, as both G2s and many of the proposed G5 designs were more slender in shape.
-We know there will be a G5 cartoon already from the leaks, so Hasbro needs to actually produce things that appear in the cartoon into toys more often. Something that's always baffled me is the amount of opportunities Hasbro wasted with FiM's success in terms of this. FiM has an astounding number of secondary, side, and background characters (both of pony and non-pony species) that they could have easily turned into toys to use the cartoon to promote, yet they didn't. Or in some cases, only turned into blindbag/FiM collection ponies. Use the cartoon to promote the toys better, instead of like G4 where you get a bunch of characters in the cartoon where they never turn them into toys/only turn them into blingbags.
-Higher quality toys. No more tails being way too low, or hair that's frizzy right out of the box or off the card.
-A lot of poses! One of my biggest gripes besides too much Mane 6 in G4 was that for the longest time, there were two poses: basic standing, and basic standing with the front left hoof up. They improved this with 4.5 when they introduced more poses and changed the mold style, but the basic standing pose was still there and was still being used too much. I don't want a basic boring standing pose like what we see in G4 (or Core 7 era G3 with the Art Pony pose for that matter) again. I want the more dynamic poses like G1, G3, and a few G4.5 poses gave us. No more boring standing poses.
-Symbols on both sides, but I think that's me expecting a bit much considering they haven't done that since G2...
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My wishes for h5 toys:
1. we have good quality toys. I’m talking good quality plastic and not greasy, weird hair.
2. There are more ponies released than just the mane six or however many mains there are. I love the mane six...but seriously, nobody needs a bajillion rairities or reinbow dashes!
3. More play sets. Like actual play sets. Not those “the box IS they play set. Hasbro, you’re not being clever doing that. You’re being disappointing.
4. More toys based on the cartoon. Hasbro, you’re sinking money into this for a reason! Use it!
5. Cutie marks on both sides. I always found it strange how ponies only have one mark on one flank.
6. More gimmicks. And I mean good gimmicks. Flocked ponies, twinkle eyed...please more than just “she has extra glitter on her leg” or “a ribbon in her mane!”
7. Posing. Posing is important. Poses help set your toys apart from one another. It worked in previous gens. Why not bring it back?
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I've been trying to be more involved in pony YouTube and thought I'd make a video going over my reactions to the Toy Fair and the end of G4 as well. If you wanted my opinion on the matter, I've got a full essay coming!
A lot of what I have to say is the obvious stuff, like QC and variety, but something I haven't seen anyone else mention that I'll talk about: better character design/art style choice. In short, G5 needs to have an art style that makes for a good toy. G4 was flawed from the start with the UPA-esque, flat style.
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1 - Variation in colorcombos and poses. To hell with pink/purple/babyblue.
2 - Ponies that don't look like chibi cats :lol: Give them longer muzzles again.
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One word: Variety.
And ponies that look like ponies :) Don't get me wrong, I like G4, but it's not the same as G1-G3
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I would like to see the quality and diversity in the ponies, with al the characters getting abouyt the same amount of love. And maybe a tonn of different species.
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For G6....
How about Hasrro just pretends that G1 never ended in 1992 in the US? Bring back the word symbol. Just keep it going from there, throw in a random gimmick for giggles. Agreed, new characters, who cares if they're associated with a cartoon or not.
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Is it true that there been a concept art leak? If so : does anybody have a glimpse for me please? :)
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For G6....
How about Hasrro just pretends that G1 never ended in 1992 in the US? Bring back the word symbol. Just keep it going from there, throw in a random gimmick for giggles. Agreed, new characters, who cares if they're associated with a cartoon or not.
I am not sure if Hasbro ever used the word symbol. I can't remember now. They definitely used other terms like rump marking and pattern and stuff...
Also, because MLP is global, and since G1 ended in 1994 in the UK and 1995 in the netherlands, technically any continuation should be from then, not just when it ended in the US release. Not least because the US had tales eps even if not the ponies.
Of course I am not really keen on that idea because continuing from that point means no more unicorns or pegasus ponies and the proto core group idea which didn't become nauseating with the tales characters because MLP ended - but really, with hindsight, was going to head that way. They are the original core seven, the original mane group. They took over the animation and the comics and all promotional media. They just didn't have the run that the later core groups have had, and thus we don't see them as annoying or repetitious :)
I am just going to ride on what has already been said and generalise, but...
I would like whatever mutation of the mane 6 is likely coming out of next to be known as Generation 4.5 and NOT as G5. Because calling it G5, if it's rehashed G4, is the same as admitting creativity in MLP is dead. And I am not ready to do that yet.
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Is it true that there been a concept art leak? If so : does anybody have a glimpse for me please? :)
Yes, there was a big leak of emails from DHX staff back in December 2017 that had unfinished season 8 episodes, G5 concept art, etc. There was a thread about it here. (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,389422.0.html) I had the emails on my previous laptop but at some point deleted them (kicking myself for that as I didn't save all the information they had and am having a hard time finding them again as the original source was taken down). Still have the G5 concept art images and had tranferred those onto my new laptop, so here's an Imgur album of them!
https://imgur.com/a/LHRAe8V
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Thank you TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 :D thats an interesting read!
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https://i.imgur.com/CzFwuZh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
The 4th row is still my favorite redesign. They have so much tail and err, hoof diversity :lol:
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https://i.imgur.com/CzFwuZh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
The 4th row is still my favorite redesign. They have so much tail and err, hoof diversity :lol:
#4 is the best! This art style is totally different from previous generations and would be great to see animated in 2D or 3D. The characters themselves look too much like G4. My ideal G5 (given these images, at least) would be row 4's art style with row 2 (or 1?)'s design!
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https://i.imgur.com/CzFwuZh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
The 4th row is still my favorite redesign. They have so much tail and err, hoof diversity :lol:
#4 is the best! This art style is totally different from previous generations and would be great to see animated in 2D or 3D. The characters themselves look too much like G4. My ideal G5 (given these images, at least) would be row 4's art style with row 2 (or 1?)'s design!
I love the huge multicolored wings Rainbow has in row 2. And the white to purple gradient in Rarity's hair.
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I would go for. 3rd row...
So from what I read they will be even more girly... Apparently we will never get proper boy ponies at all. I mean G1 did some attempt but only earth ponies. Considering us boys as lame since we had no Pegasi nor unicorns. G4 tried it but in toys we had almost nothing. I like the G4.5 concept with male ponies. Although only 4 came out. The All About Soarin model is great. Wings can move. That is cool. But still so poor effort to include male ponies.... It is a shame since we are talking 2020 not 1800 anymore... Boys also can play with colorful toys.
Regarding quality. I agree with what have been said. Please make the hair last a bit after opening the box... We don't want to have to rehair or use products on them when they are still mint.
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I would go for. 3rd row...
So from what I read they will be even more girly... Apparently we will never get proper boy ponies at all. I mean G1 did some attempt but only earth ponies. Considering us boys as lame since we had no Pegasi nor unicorns.
In the UK, the unicorn newborn twin Sniffles is a boy. So there's one :)
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I would go for. 3rd row...
So from what I read they will be even more girly... Apparently we will never get proper boy ponies at all. I mean G1 did some attempt but only earth ponies. Considering us boys as lame since we had no Pegasi nor unicorns.
In the UK, the unicorn newborn twin Sniffles is a boy. So there's one :)
I didn't know that. As for Italian Gusty is supposed to be a boy too lol.
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Ponies whose existence is based around being in a gimmick line, much like we saw with Twinkle Eyes or TAFs in G1, where their set gimmicks are just an inherent aspect of the character themselves, as opposed to with G4 just tacking say, a pearlized coat (as much as I do adore pearlized ponies) on the Mane 6 who aren't normally pearly.
This exactly. I was pretty dismayed when I found out the “mane 6” were turning into Seaponies, since in the original they were separate beings.
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I'm just along for the ride with G5, aiming to keep and open mind. Also, I love that the Arena allows the word "butthole" :lol:
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https://i.imgur.com/CzFwuZh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
The 4th row is still my favorite redesign. They have so much tail and err, hoof diversity :lol:
Just out of curiousness, are we including the first row that is the current designs XD?
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It's probably going to take something really special for me to stay interested in ponies after G4 ends so I'm really hesitant to say I want them to be like *this* or *that* specifically because what I want is to be surprised by something awesome!
I suppose I can say: I like the 3-4" scale of G4 and would like G5 to stay small,
they need cutie marks on both sides, and it would be cool to see some collector focused (meaning high quality) figures.
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I hope G5 continues the pattern of odd-numbered generations having more pony-like proportions. I'm tired of mouse-faced noodle deer.
I also want Hasbro to abandon the Core Characters concept, but I won't be holding my breath. It would be great if they could at least implement a Tales style 1:2 ratio of main and new characters within the toy sets though.
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Well the original link that had been posted is kind of poor on the quality and hard for me to tell on the pony designs 100%
I know it was posted on the forums at some point but this is a clearer picture with the rows labled
https://goo.gl/8o9g8F
Now here is the thing. If they go with something like row 5 I will want to throw fakies at every single one of the Hasbro people. Row 6 is also a no for me. As for rows 2-4... eh it's a mixed bag... like I'm not much of a fan of row 4 for style reasons, but I can see if they do a mix of rows 2/3..
Either way I don't know how pony G5 will really be and that leaked image could be a total hoax since we haven't seen official design announcements yet.
Do you guys think next year they will officially show G5 toys that will be out at some point with the artwork they are going with?
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I hope G5 continues the pattern of odd-numbered generations having more pony-like proportions. I'm tired of mouse-faced noodle deer.
I also want Hasbro to abandon the Core Characters concept, but I won't be holding my breath. It would be great if they could at least implement a Tales style 1:2 ratio of main and new characters within the toy sets though.
Mouse-faced noodle deer! XD My boyfriend thinks they look like applehead chihuahuas.
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I hope G5 continues the pattern of odd-numbered generations having more pony-like proportions. I'm tired of mouse-faced noodle deer.
I also want Hasbro to abandon the Core Characters concept, but I won't be holding my breath. It would be great if they could at least implement a Tales style 1:2 ratio of main and new characters within the toy sets though.
Mouse-faced noodle deer! XD My boyfriend thinks they look like applehead chihuahuas.
Ah, these names are awesome. I like the (original) G4 pony poses etc. But yeah. I love these names.
As for the designs, for me, all rejected. Not interested in any of them. If they apply the style to new characters, then fine. Otherwise, genuinely don't care.
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Definitely more variety. I'd prefer no core cast, but in the end I'm happy as long as we aren't bombarded by Mane 6 toys. I never actually understand why nearly all of the toys have to be Mane 6. Plenty of popular toys these days are doing just find with a core cast. I'd even be happy if ponies from previous generations were brought back into the core cast. I'm just sick of the Mane 6 already and want to see them gone. Sadly it looks like they're here to stay but one can dream, right?
Bigger, higher quality toys. I'd prefer G3 sized ponies, and symbols on both sides! Better hair would be great. That's kinda the point of having hair, right?
Bring back fabric clothes! I hate the plastic clothes we get nowadays. They're so ugly and difficult to put on. My four year old niece can get G1 pony wear on my ponies just fine but needs help with the plastic clothes on her G4 reboot FS Applejack.
Better gimmicks. Not just making ponies pearly, or giving them headbands. I'd like to see TAF style ponies, flocked ponies, and Twinkle Eyes. Glow n Show style ponies would be cool, too. Anything glow in the dark would be fun, actually.
Keep blind bags around, just not to the extent that G4 did. Maybe just a few waves? I liked the variety the blind bags have had and as long as we don't get flooded with them and keep the variety I'd be happy.
Better playsets. I definitely don't want to see castles that are just a wall with a few levels. I want more play space and dimension. And if the playset comes with a pony, I don't want it to be a core cast pony! I was so excited that the Canterlot/Seaquestria castle came with Queen Novo and Haven Bay because they were actually NEW.
Pony Wear sold separately. I'd just like to be able to to get more clothes and accessories without buying a whole new pony.
Holiday ponies. I miss the days of G3 when there'd be winter, Easter, Valentine's, and even Halloween ponies!
Mail order program. My sister was telling me how the newest TMNT toys brought back their mail order program. From what I understand, the toys come with a code that you enter on their website and you save up points that way? I'm pretty sure Disney does something similar with their DVDs having codes in them. I feel like this would work for MLP as well. Mail order exclusives would be great, and it would be a bigger incentive to actually keep buying more toys I would think.
Tail ribbons. Enough said.
Lastly, baby ponies. Kids loves babies and babies are cute, after all.
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That is awesome to hear that at least one toy company is bringing back mail order programs in a new way!
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https://i.imgur.com/CzFwuZh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
The 4th row is still my favorite redesign. They have so much tail and err, hoof diversity :lol:
Just out of curiousness, are we including the first row that is the current designs XD?
I included them when I wrote "4th row". My faves are the pegasi with feathers on their tails.
If they do a reboot, I hope they will go more into that direction and less into the "anime girl face with vaque equine body" we see in some other rows. Of course, to make row 4 perfect they would still need the longer faces I want :biggrin:
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I am morally against mail order ponies happening again (because both G1 and G2 cut out the non North American market, which is a lot of us, and we don't need another way to make getting ponies harder because of where we live. Ponies only in stores please.
On the same line, no store exclusives. G3's winter, halloween, easter etc ponies were none of them sold in the UK because of target's stranglehold. Again, a lot of stress, money and time based on location of buyer. MLP should have outgrown that. If we're not getting regional exclusives or regional originality any more, let's cut out the regional exclusivity of mail orders and store exclusives as well and just mainstream everything for everyone.
(Not against holiday ponies. Just their previous distribution style).
Regarding the core cast garbage, what struck me with Monster High and their core cast (which is undeniably present), is that each range didn't necessarily trot out all of the characters over again. And although there are a sickening number of Lalas out there, and a fair few Frankies and Clawdeens as well, each release also included a new character or a character who had had fewer releases. Dolls tend to get away with core repeat releases more than I think MLP can, maybe because of the "dress up" angle, but I feel like the original MH, before it went pants, actually balanced the core cast with the new character dynamic quite well. You wouldn't just see Frankie-Lala-Clawdeen-Cleo in every release. There was a kind of B-cast as well who also got swapped in and out of lines (like Rochelle, maybe Ghoulia - much as I'd like to see her as core A cast, I can't, Venus, Abbey, Toralei) and then beyond that the characters who had odd releases or just one off releases. And there are a range of male dolls - not just a surfeit of Deuces and Clawds (which are there) but Garrett, Porter, Billy, Holt, Jackson, etc.
If G4 had done that - released maybe 2 of the mane 6 in each set release (rotating these) along with four new characters, and occasionally a male character as well, I think it would've worked better. I know earlier G4 lines did do something like that, but later ones just defaulted to the core which is also where I think the line started to struggle. G4 does have a b cast - Trixie, Starlight Glimmer, etc - but the balance is all wrong because pretty much every release is all of the mane 6 plus, or 5 of the mane 6 (usually lacking either Rarity or AJ as far as I can tell). And lots of multipacks with all the mane 6 in to get the new character. The pearlies were the last G4 line that didn't do that. But the mane 6 pearlies were the ones that took longest to clear here. (Admittedly Coloratura is still in Wimbledon's Entertainer :/ But yeah. If anyone in South London is still looking for her, she's there :P)
I am not a kid, obviously, so not the target audience for G4. But there's definitely a difference between how kids used to behave around MLP in stores, and how they do now.
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Longer unicorn horns! The fact that babies have longer horns then they do is ridiculous.
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I'm going to go for a really low bar here and just say make the toys good quality again. No gross matted hair or cheap plastic!
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I'm going to go for a really low bar here and just say make the toys good quality again. No gross matted hair or cheap plastic!
I just bought my first G4 brushable (Trixie Lulamoon glitter design) and oy vey, I see what they mean by terrible hair straight out of the box. :blink: :shocked: :pout:
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I'm going to go for a really low bar here and just say make the toys good quality again. No gross matted hair or cheap plastic!
I just bought my first G4 brushable (Trixie Lulamoon glitter design) and oy vey, I see what they mean by terrible hair straight out of the box. :blink: :shocked: :pout:
The hair can be so mind mindbogglingly bad for something that is supposedly a "brushable" toy. Especially the tails... *shudder*
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I'm going to go for a really low bar here and just say make the toys good quality again. No gross matted hair or cheap plastic!
I just bought my first G4 brushable (Trixie Lulamoon glitter design) and oy vey, I see what they mean by terrible hair straight out of the box. :blink: :shocked: :pout:
The hair can be so mind mindbogglingly bad for something that is supposedly a "brushable" toy. Especially the tails... *shudder*
tails are the worst and even more because they can't be fixed as easily as in G1s
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Less obvious seams on the plastic
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Monster High did a fantastic job of balancing the "main" characters without having them completely take over the line (well, before G2 came along, anyway). If MLP did that then I'd have no complaints about them re-releasing the same characters all the time! I really wish they'd take a leaf out of Mattel's book on that one.
As for what I want from G5.. hmm.. all I ever really want is lots of character variety, really. Give me something NEW and different instead of the same-old same-old!! More species variety would be nice, too.. G1 had flutters, sea ponies, etc and then G4 just stuck to the usual earth/unicorns/pegasi for the most part. :(
More boy ponies would be nice, too. And families!!
I would go for. 3rd row...
So from what I read they will be even more girly... Apparently we will never get proper boy ponies at all. I mean G1 did some attempt but only earth ponies. Considering us boys as lame since we had no Pegasi nor unicorns.
In the UK, the unicorn newborn twin Sniffles is a boy. So there's one :)
I didn't know that. As for Italian Gusty is supposed to be a boy too lol.
Re Unicorno (Italian Majesty) is a boy too :) But it would've been great to see some non-earth pony Big Brothers, I agree.
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I think these have been covered, but for me...
-No country exclusives
-More colour variety
-Theme sets, like ponies with food symbols, earthly symbols, magic symbols, etc.
-Playsets that aren't "half-a-set"
-Clear release dates - a long shot, but I'd really like to know what month each wave is coming out
-If they bring back the pet toys (like Opal and Angel), include rarer/mythical creatures instead of generic animal toys
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No cloven hooves please. I'm also ok with pinkie existing I just don't want her to take the entire line over. I also want more previous gen revivals and more new characters.
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Just got done looking at the leak.... I like the last unicorn concept art stuff if they end up going that route but I don't see them translating well to toys unless they are like breyers or grand champions.
I'd love to see more gimmicks and I'll second the monster high release mentioned they had that balanced real well between main characters and new/side character toys
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Ideally, what I'd want in a G5 toy line (I haven't seen any leaks):
Character variety, like lots of different characters. Maybe from the show, maybe ones that are unique to the toys like some of the early G4 releases. Not just a bunch of Mane 6 over and over again.
I'd really like the actual pony designs to look more like ponies. My favorite body/face shapes were G2 and G3. I know going "backwards" might not be the way the designers will go, unfortunately for me. I'm not a huge fan of the giant heads/eyes and tiny snouts that don't look like any animal at all.
Closer to G3 size would be preferable too! Though for me, it might be dangerous to collect something bigger, seeing as how I have no more room for ponies :lol:
I'm just excited to see the new direction they'll take, and despite all my criticisms, I love all gens and will probably love this one as well. No matter what, a few G5s will make it into my collection!
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I'd love to see plenty of details in the new toyline, things like glitter and gems, G4 only have these in certain toylines. Like G2, they had those lovely gems, maybe G5 could have pretty details like that too? Also, quality is a big issue. I'd like to see much better hair quality. If they could do more male ponies I'd love that, and while I'm on the subject of gender, it might be nice for Hasbro to stop labelling MLP as "girly". I really hope there'll be less packaging, a little thought for the environment Hasbro! I do hope they redeem themselves after the disaster of G4.5, but that's looking unlikely.
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If this gen is full of pony- like ponies, instead of balloon-headed quadrupeds and anthros, and they don't do traditional unicorn tails, I'd like to see Lira Heartstrings, all the Unipegs, Seaswirl, Sunset Shimmer, Queen Novo, Haven Bay and Princess Skystar return in the toyline.
Nightmare Rara, MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid. Girly has proven to be thoughtful, good and adventurous many times in the past.
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MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid.
I also want to add, there's nothing wrong about it being girly. And EVERYONE should be able to enjoy it. (Aka nothing wrong w a boy who likes ponies)
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Want neon colors brought back.
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I want neon colours, and ponies with multicoloured hair where each colour has some contrast to the other. Contrast, contrast, contrast.
G4s nine times out of ten have solid-coloured hair or have bi-coloured hair that's like.... pink and slightly lighter pink. Like Sunny Rays, Pretzel, Coloratura, Coco Pommel, Cheerilee, Shining Armour... I'm running out of fingers to count on. None of these ponies have any different colours in their hair... we need more ponies like Lulu Luck or Feathermay.
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Well... since we have already seen the G5 designs... I'm going to go ahead and start ducking fakies now when I say G6. :D
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I want them to be ponies again.
No cloven hooves or donkey tails for the unicorns.
Good QC: Nice plastic, thick, silky hair, no wonky eyes or symbols, no crapping out their tails. The tail goes ABOVE the butt Hasbroken, not IN the butthole.
Wide variety of characters.
Minimal focus on main characters. The occasional re-release is fine, but don't do it like 3.5-4 ever again!
More then one or two hair colors.
Symbol and pose variety.
All species. Earth ponies, pegasus, unicorns, sea ponies, flutter ponies, merponies, wingers, breezies, unipegs, bat ponies.
Distinct new sets.
Returning sets with new ponies, So-Softs, Twinkle Eyes, Pearlies, Jewel Ponies, Water Cuties, etc.
Boys in a wide variety of colors and no chopped manes. Its ridiculous.
A wide variety of colors and hues. Wanna see neon colors again.
Bigger. G1 or G3 sized.
Families.
i vote for bat ponies
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I know some of these have been said already but:
- More characters
- The ponies being bigger, maybe G3-sized
- 3D cutie marks
- No more silly mohawks on boy ponies
- Better hair quality overall
- Better proportions and no more g4.5 type noodle legs (I have one g4.5 pony and can't stand her up)
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I saw that Cutie Mark Crew ponies now have brushable hair. At this rate (no new news) I'd say Cutie Mark Crew IS G5
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I saw that Cutie Mark Crew ponies now have brushable hair. At this rate (no new news) I'd say Cutie Mark Crew IS G5
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Nah. This gen isn't done yet. I'm both curious and apprehensive about g5. At this point as long as the toys are nice, I don't give a crap about the show.
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At this point as long as the toys are nice, I don't give a crap about the show.
Agree!
It may also be difficult to tell where one gen ends and another begins since they appear to be basically the same anyway.
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Nightmare Rara, MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid. Girly has proven to be thoughtful, good and adventurous many times in the past.
Hey, I didn't mean to get anyone angry! XD
It's just that in modern society gender isn't just what body parts your born with anymore, and if people who aren't female want to enjoy MLP then it should be allowed. We shouldn't have to be afraid of getting bullied. And I just think it's the big brands that started this idea of girls and boys being a certain way. I don't want any drama! ^^
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Nightmare Rara, MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid. Girly has proven to be thoughtful, good and adventurous many times in the past.
Hey, I didn't mean to get anyone angry! XD
It's just that in modern society gender isn't just what body parts your born with anymore, and if people who aren't female want to enjoy MLP then it should be allowed. We shouldn't have to be afraid of getting bullied. And I just think it's the big brands that started this idea of girls and boys being a certain way. I don't want any drama! ^^
Did I say we should bully them or that no one but girls should be allowed to like it? No. I said it is Girly and Girly is not bad. It is still made for and geared towards girls. To deny that is as silly as saying that boys can't like girly stuff.
Transformers is Boyish and geared for boys. But Boyish is not automatically bad and girls enjoy it too.
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Nightmare Rara, MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid. Girly has proven to be thoughtful, good and adventurous many times in the past.
Hey, I didn't mean to get anyone angry! XD
It's just that in modern society gender isn't just what body parts your born with anymore, and if people who aren't female want to enjoy MLP then it should be allowed. We shouldn't have to be afraid of getting bullied. And I just think it's the big brands that started this idea of girls and boys being a certain way. I don't want any drama! ^^
Did I say we should bully them or that no one but girls should be allowed to like it? No. I said it is Girly and Girly is not bad.
Transformers is a Boyish, but Boyish is not automatically bad and girls enjoy it too.
I don't recall saying it was bad, it's just that I don't like the fact that most people think MLP is for girls of a certain age and Hasbro played a big part in letting that happen.
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Nightmare Rara, MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid. Girly has proven to be thoughtful, good and adventurous many times in the past.
Hey, I didn't mean to get anyone angry! XD
It's just that in modern society gender isn't just what body parts your born with anymore, and if people who aren't female want to enjoy MLP then it should be allowed. We shouldn't have to be afraid of getting bullied. And I just think it's the big brands that started this idea of girls and boys being a certain way. I don't want any drama! ^^
Did I say we should bully them or that no one but girls should be allowed to like it? No. I said it is Girly and Girly is not bad.
Transformers is a Boyish, but Boyish is not automatically bad and girls enjoy it too.
I don't recall saying it was bad, it's just that I don't like the fact that most people think MLP is for girls of a certain age and Hasbro played a big part in letting that happen.
But it is geared towards girls.
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Nightmare Rara, MLP IS girly. Period the End. :mad: The mistake is thinking that girly can only be bad, shallow and vapid. Girly has proven to be thoughtful, good and adventurous many times in the past.
Hey, I didn't mean to get anyone angry! XD
It's just that in modern society gender isn't just what body parts your born with anymore, and if people who aren't female want to enjoy MLP then it should be allowed. We shouldn't have to be afraid of getting bullied. And I just think it's the big brands that started this idea of girls and boys being a certain way. I don't want any drama! ^^
Did I say we should bully them or that no one but girls should be allowed to like it? No. I said it is Girly and Girly is not bad.
Transformers is a Boyish, but Boyish is not automatically bad and girls enjoy it too.
I don't recall saying it was bad, it's just that I don't like the fact that most people think MLP is for girls of a certain age and Hasbro played a big part in letting that happen.
I think the term girly should be banned, since it almost entirely carries negative connitations and there's no way to distinguish it from "aimed at girls".
It's like "hits like a girl"
"Big girl's blouse"
etc.
Girl = negative and weak thus girly = negative and weak.
Though FIM is full of those stereotypical things "girls like" like fashion and parties and pink...
It's actually not wrong that it should be, so much as the people denying its there in an attempt to deny FIM's "girliness" as a weak thing.
G1 was also aimed at girls but I feel there were so many parallel canons going on that there was enough scope for independent imagination and a different kind of girly to come forth. When the concept is strangled by an animated series/canon that dominates, like G4 has been, its hard to have the leeway to create your own "girly" outside of the negative definition.
I would never have been into MLP had it truly been the tea party fest some bronies have tagged it as. I was in it for invading zombie overlords and the window abseiling competitions that my ponies experienced.
The problem is the term. We really need to be able to re-empower "girly" as it is always used as a slight.
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G4 was fine as a toyline but it had flaws. I understand that the show sells toys and therefore the toyline will be very reflective of what kids will see and want. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF CELESTIA DON'T LET G5 MAKE COUNTLESS VERSIONS OF THE SAME SIX TOYS AGAIN.
Other than that I'm hoping for:
- Better playsets. I don't think any of the G4 playsets hold up to the Paradise Estate,the G2 castle or even the Celebration castle.
- More variety! G1 was best for this but more species and some male ponies.
- Bigger and sturdier. More G1 and G3. I cannot bear the weird G4.5 ponies out right now.
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I personally like the unicorns looking more like traditional unicorns. So yes to the cloven hooves and lions tails for me! I also enjoy the kirin, sea ponies, hippogriffs, etc that G4 introduced, so I would like to see those in G5 as well.
However, I HATE the mohawks for the boys. G1 boy ponies were perfect in my opinion.
I also do not want another Core 7, Mane 6, whatever they want to call it. I can only have so many sets of the same ponies before I go mad. Variety is the spice of life after all!
If the ponies could be closer in size to the G1/G3 toys I would enjoy that greatly. I don't mind a few of the lines being smaller, but I want the main line to be larger.
And if I can only get one wish, I want the symbols to be on both sides. Please, Hasbro, just give me that!
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More dragons! Maybe there could be a set that only contained dragon friends?
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And more emphasis on the TOY line. Less on the animation. I didn't grow up needing to be told how to characterise my ponies by a cartoon. I saw very little MLP animation as a kid and I don't care that that was the case. Although I loved the comics, I never played any games in which my ponies acted out comic stories. Every time I see someone whine about 'show accurate' this or that it makes me cringe inside. With MLP, animation should match toys, not the other way around. Toy accurate animation is better than show accurate toys.
So much agreement! Right now it feels like the toys are an afterthought. :(
My wishlist:
-New characters, and lots of them. That was what made G1 and G3 so exciting! I loved (and still love) oohing and ahhing over all the different characters and designs.
-Less slice-of-life, more high fantasy. In my perfect vision of MLP, every episode would be like Rescue at Midnight Castle. *o*
-Larger scale for the main toyline.
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Here's one I hadn't thought of. I wanna see Charity ponies brought back. Getting acute pony that helps contribute to a good cause. Yes please!