Of course, it is possible that the site used some fanart, but considering the rest of the thumbnails in the link, that would come off as strange to me.I did a Google image search and got no results, so I'm pretty sure it's legit.
Spoilerdo...pinkie...and cheese...have a...child?
Two rumours I've heard so far:SpoilerBonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies
I'll probably watch it as soon as I can, just because :P
Spoilerdo...pinkie...and cheese...have a...child?SpoilerIt looks like it? She looks more like a FlutterPie baby but I know they're too cowardly to ship among the mane6.
There's also supposed to be something something DiscoShy
Two rumours I've heard so far:SpoilerBonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies
I'll probably watch it as soon as I can, just because :PI just watched it. I didn't understand a lot (it's...in Dutch lol) but I got the general gist of it. It's cute, I'm not upset with it. I think it's a sweet ending.SpoilerHalf right ain't bad!SpoilerI'm not even mad with the Discoshy. Rarity looks really nice with her stripe of grey and I liked seeing everyone grown up. But wow, Ponyville's population sure is aging huh.
Two rumours I've heard so far:SpoilerBonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies
Well, you get one of those sort of.SpoilerI'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right? :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
SpoilerOHH that makes so much more sense now. That that's her student-ok cool yeah.
Wow StarTrix is dead. Sad.
For Sora,Thank you! That's still pretty cute.SpoilerWell, you get one of those sort of.SpoilerI'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right? :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
I have no issue with any of that, which is nice for a change.Spoilerthis is everything that happens:
Big Mac and Sugar Belle run Sweet Apple Acres and have a child.
Pinkie Pie and Cheese Sandwich have a child and boy is she a cutie.
Trixie cleans up and becomes a very professional Counselor.
The biggest of all:
Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst have a daughter who becomes Twilight's student as she follows in her footsteps about the magic of friendship.
Fluttershy and Discord are in a romantic relationship and he is seen giving her lunch before going to work with the Mane 6 as they teach Starlight's daughter. They both run the animal sanctuary together as Discord opens dimensional rifts the animals gallop through.
It is implied that Sunset Shimmer had returned to Equestria. Tempest and Capper are seen at the coronation reception.
Quoted by a user on mlp forums.
For Sora,Thank you! That's still pretty cute.SpoilerWell, you get one of those sort of.SpoilerI'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right? :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.I have no issue with any of that, which is nice for a change.Spoilerthis is everything that happens:
Big Mac and Sugar Belle run Sweet Apple Acres and have a child.
Pinkie Pie and Cheese Sandwich have a child and boy is she a cutie.
Trixie cleans up and becomes a very professional Counselor.
The biggest of all:
Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst have a daughter who becomes Twilight's student as she follows in her footsteps about the magic of friendship.
Fluttershy and Discord are in a romantic relationship and he is seen giving her lunch before going to work with the Mane 6 as they teach Starlight's daughter. They both run the animal sanctuary together as Discord opens dimensional rifts the animals gallop through.
It is implied that Sunset Shimmer had returned to Equestria. Tempest and Capper are seen at the coronation reception.
Quoted by a user on mlp forums.SpoilerI'm taking it that Trixie and Rainbow Dash don't hitch up with anyone? If so, definitely happy, since they usually have every single character paired up and it feels so forced.
For Sora,SpoilerWell, you get one of those sort of.SpoilerI'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right? :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
I'm just glad that it's finally ending.Ugh, me too. Maybe we’ll get a better fandom with the next generation. Anyway, I haven’t seen the episode but my thoughts on the images I’ve seen:
For Sora,SpoilerWell, you get one of those sort of.SpoilerI'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right? :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Aren't they siblings?
Nope! Childhood friendsFor Sora,SpoilerWell, you get one of those sort of.SpoilerI'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right? :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Aren't they siblings?
I'm just glad that it's finally ending.Ugh, me too. Maybe we’ll get a better fandom with the next generation. Anyway, I haven’t seen the episode but my thoughts on the images I’ve seen:Spoileroh I’m thrilled at what happens to Cozy. It’s going to make so many people mad and I’m here with my popcorn totally ready for this. She deserved exactly what happens to her, and I don’t give a single darn about her age.
Baby Cheesy-Pie is the absolute cutest!
Oh my goodness Scootaloo’s still got those baby wings even as an adult? I feel so terrible for her. She’s failed as a Pegasus, the poor girl.
Big Boi Spike is...uhhhh... interesting? Do he and Rarity get together when he gets older? I honestly kinda hope so.
Lyra and Sweetie Drops. Ohhhh man they confirmed it! That makes me so very happy!
DiscoShy is a thing and I’m thrilled!
Starlight doesn’t end up with Trixie? This isn’t the news I wanted to hear. Of course, they had to make her end up with Sunburst because they needed a kid to carry on the student tradition. But man, the one ship I shipped didn’t ship in the end.
Do they imply Granny Smith is gone? Older AJ has a shawl, and Big Mac and Sugarbelle run Sweet Apple Acres. So...is Granny out of the picture now? That’s honestly depressing.
I can’t wait to see these episodes play out!
Anyway, I haven’t seen the episode but my thoughts on the images I’ve seen:Spoileroh I’m thrilled at what happens to Cozy. It’s going to make so many people mad and I’m here with my popcorn totally ready for this. She deserved exactly what happens to her, and I don’t give a single darn about her age.
These episodes are actually on an official streaming service in The Netherlands, so I wouldn’t categorize this as a leak.SpoilerAwww, those kids are CUTE! Does anyone have a screenshot of the Big Mac/Sugar Belle kid? I'm neutral to the pairing but I like seeing nextgens :B
Also wow Starlight/Sunburst's daughter is gorgeous. I want a toy of her!!
It does suck that the finale's been leaked though. :( Obviously this one doesn't affect me personally (don't watch the show, just like reading the threads sometimes), but it's always disappointing when big stuff gets out before the intended release date... I hate how cartoon leaks are so common now.
Any idea of when the finale will air in the US?No dates are confirmed, but if Discovery Family doesn’t stop until all the episodes have aired, then it will be in October.
Oh man...SpoilerGranny Smith’s actually passed away? Was it blatantly mentioned in the episode, or was it one of those things where she’s just not shown with the other Apples. Either way, that’s super-sad. I’m curious if they made any mention of the Apple Pear-ents (ha...get it? I’ll show myself out...) Anyway,man that hurts. Granny was a boss and straight-up the heart of the Apple family. That actually hurts to hear this news.
Oh man...SpoilerGranny Smith’s actually passed away? Was it blatantly mentioned in the episode, or was it one of those things where she’s just not shown with the other Apples. Either way, that’s super-sad. I’m curious if they made any mention of the Apple Pear-ents (ha...get it? I’ll show myself out...) Anyway,man that hurts. Granny was a boss and straight-up the heart of the Apple family. That actually hurts to hear this news.SpoilerShe just isn't there anymore.
In the end there is a song-over montage where we see AJ going back to Big Mac and his wife and kid at Sweet Apple Acres and Granny is missing.
Also, I am kinda sad they made Twilight a Celestia type. Her friends that are so dear to her will become old and die and she will just stick around forever and make sure other ponies are friends with each other. What a terrible future :P
SpoilerI see people assuming that that one pony is Starlight/Sunburst's daughter, but afaik it's never stated/implied.
- She's way older than Pinkie's, or even Big Mac/Sugar Belle's kids.
- She sees Starlight & Sunburst when she's shown around the school (
seemingly for the first time), and they don't seem to acknowledge each other as parents/child, at least the way that the other kids did.- Looking at a sub that someone did, it appears that she doesn't care about friendship/making friends, thinks it's a waste of time, and wants to quit the school because of it. That'd be weird coming from Starlight's daughter.
- There's no romantic implication between Starlight and Sunburst, at least in these last 3 episodes (did they hint at it earlier? I haven't kept up with the show).
She certainly looks like their daughter and bears a striking resemblance to them, but she may just be a random student of Twilight's.
Guess we'll have to wait for the English release.
Spoilerits at least sunburst's, as she has his mark.
Spoilerits at least sunburst's, as she has his mark.SpoilerOh wow, how did I not notice that.
I still find it odd that she's so much older than the other kids, though. Especially Big Mac/Sweetie Belle's.
I'm also curious on just how much time's passed in that time-skip. 20-ish years?
You know what really gets meAdult Flurry Heart was shown in the stained glass in Twilight's castle! She had blue heart-shaped jewelry and everything. Don't feel like pulling the episode back up to screencap it but yep, she was there. :PSpoilerwith that time skip and all?
They didn't show older Flurry Heart. I would have wanted to see her as a young alicorn princess and see what's happening to her, if she would become her aunt's student or take over her mother's queendom.
But we didn't see any of the Miamore-Armors XD
SpoilerThe epilogue was so schmaltzy and sappy...but I loved it. :biggrin: A show like this kinda deserves a super happy ending.
Though I do need to see it in English (anyone got subs?) because I wasn't entirely sure what Twilight and her friends were crying about. I'm guessing they will rarely get to see her anymore? I guess they all now rule Equestria in their respective domains?
Okay, okay, I watched it. It was cute! What a sweet ending.SpoilerYou know what really gets meAdult Flurry Heart was shown in the stained glass in Twilight's castle! She had blue heart-shaped jewelry and everything. Don't feel like pulling the episode back up to screencap it but yep, she was there. :PSpoilerwith that time skip and all?
They didn't show older Flurry Heart. I would have wanted to see her as a young alicorn princess and see what's happening to her, if she would become her aunt's student or take over her mother's queendom.
But we didn't see any of the Miamore-Armors XD
These episodes are actually on an official streaming service in The Netherlands, so I wouldn’t categorize this as a leak.
SpoilerSpeaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:SpoilerSeeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.
Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).SpoilerI don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.
SpoilerYeesh. It doesn't surprise me, I watched the Twilicorn drama unfold, The Cadence drama was a minor blip, as was the Flurry Heart one, and of course Equestria Girls. Though, the latter was made worse with Lauren Faust chimed in, which made me irritated at her; this is a TOY series, it's not your original IP, and you get mad at a TOY company who makes TOYS wanting to push TOY products?? No wonder she has a rep of being difficult to work with and always quitting things due to 'creative differences'.
SpoilerI'm glad to see we at least got something like this. With the overabundance of hetero relationships in this finale, it feels like we should've gotten more. But at least it's something. ^.^SpoilerYeesh. It doesn't surprise me, I watched the Twilicorn drama unfold, The Cadence drama was a minor blip, as was the Flurry Heart one, and of course Equestria Girls. Though, the latter was made worse with Lauren Faust chimed in, which made me irritated at her; this is a TOY series, it's not your original IP, and you get mad at a TOY company who makes TOYS wanting to push TOY products?? No wonder she has a rep of being difficult to work with and always quitting things due to 'creative differences'.
I would also be upset if I had created what I thought was a diverse group of female characters, only for all of them to be turned into extreme make-up and miniskirt wearing skinny teenage girls.
She had no leg to stand on because prior to MLP (whom she designed skinny, bobbleheaded and make-up wearing) she had Galaxy Girls, her own franchise, where all girls were skinny, make-up wearing, bobbleheaded ragdolls.
She also redesigned some of the Super Hero Girls to be extremely skinny or hourglass shaped with wasp waists, tiny noses, long legs.
Had she designed EqG they would have all looked like a mashup of Galaxy Girls and Super Hero Girls because that's her style.
She was mad she was gone from Hasbro and suddenly they made a doll line inspired by her designs when they could have picked up her Galaxy Girls franchise (but didn't want to).
She could have stayed with MLP but she left on her own to work with her husband on Wonder Over Yonder. She had a chance to influence Hasbro and she threw it away.
She was mad she was gone from Hasbro and suddenly they made a doll line inspired by her designs when they could have picked up her Galaxy Girls franchise (but didn't want to).
SpoilerWill these designs be made toys, as the end of the generation? Or perhaps 'special' figures akin to the Guardians of Harmony? They should appear in the Gameloft game at least.
Don't think so. But I have a soft spot for RD and Trixie, regardless of their sometimes obnoxious behavior :PSpoilerwell, it wasn't shown at least. Rarity, twilight and applejack don't either tho, right?
I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.Gotta agree with this. I don't agree with their (fans) behaviour, but feeding the fans to this extent is going to cause problems.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.
You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.
SpoilerI actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:
SpoilerI actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:
I would also be upset if I had created what I thought was a diverse group of female characters, only for all of them to be turned into extreme make-up and miniskirt wearing skinny teenage girls.
SpoilerI actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:
Yeah, that is kinda weird that Twilight is aging differently than her friends. Didn’t someone on the show say Twilight won’t outlive them, though? I may be remembering incorrectly. Anyway, I was expecting more a Cadance-type appearance for her, but she just went full Celestia. Didn’t she?
SpoilerYeah, that is kinda weird that Twilight is aging differently than her friends. Didn’t someone on the show say Twilight won’t outlive them, though? I may be remembering incorrectly. Anyway, I was expecting more a Cadance-type appearance for her, but she just went full Celestia. Didn’t she?
I have some sort of memory about that one as well...SpoilerAlthough I'm wondering if they canned that idea? I mean the others were clearly getting older, but Twilight just got bigger with no signs of aging.
After all, if she did end up aging the same way, who would look after the kingdom? Would Celestia and Luna just return? Is she just gonna pick up a new student and give them wings and/or a horn? I feel like there are too many questions now, most of which wouldn't exist without the time skip.
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?SpoilerThee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.
As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.
I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?SpoilerThee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.
As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.
I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.SpoilerI also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?
I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well.
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?SpoilerThee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.
As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.
I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.SpoilerI also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?
I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well.
"With great power comes greatresponsibilitylegs" :lol:
Tbh, I never liked Celestia's or Cadance's models. Luna's was the best of the three even tho she was also very skinny in the back, like some kind of hound. But Cadance took it to the extreme and looked like a pink whippet, while Celestia was a white giraffe ;)
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?SpoilerThee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.
As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.
I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.SpoilerI also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?
I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well.
"With great power comes greatresponsibilitylegs" :lol:
Tbh, I never liked Celestia's or Cadance's models. Luna's was the best of the three even tho she was also very skinny in the back, like some kind of hound. But Cadance took it to the extreme and looked like a pink whippet, while Celestia was a white giraffe ;)SpoilerI think Celestia's model looks fine on her, but pasting another pony's color/face on it just looks weird, imo, and feels like lazy animation. Kinda like how the adult CMC were just their colors and manes slapped onto a generic adult pony model.
Also for some reason Twilight makes that N E C K stand out a lot more than it does on Celestia, but maybe that's just me.
omg Ragamuffin that image is hilarious and horrifying!!SpoilerHooray for LyraBon! Okay, the "gay couple confirmed in the last 5 minutes of the show" trope is starting to get irritating.. but I've always thought LyraBon was cute, so I'll take it. :P
so the Star/Sun kid is Luster Dawn? Oooh. Did Pinkie's kid get a name?
I don't like High Princess Twilight, either. I'm neutral to the idea itself but the execution just looks weird.. and I agree w/ you about her hair, Ragamuffin. I've never really thought that much about how Luna/Celestia's hair worked but having Twilight's hair look like that is a little too odd. It just doesn't look quite right.
SpoilerLuster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.
Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
SpoilerLuster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.
Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
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Are Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake, the children of Mr. and Mrs. Cake.
But like,SpoilerWhere are Mr. Mrs. Cake? Are they dead too? Retirement home? Questions. I have questions.
Cadence was a pegasusSpoilerLuster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.
Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
So that Dutch streaming service that released the episodes has now pulled them and stated that it was a complete accident.I see that they took down the second half of the season, but where did they say it was an accident?
Whoopsie!
SpoilerLuster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.
Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
That's why we need the Rise of Flurry to put these hornfaces into their places. Only alicorn-born alicorns should be meant to rule :P
Or more like... Flurry should have had Cozy Glow's S8 role. That would have been real controversial!
About the two-parter...SpoilerDiscord should have suffered the same fate as the three baddies. I don't care if his intentions were "good", the writers used him once again as being directly responsible and once again he was easily forgiven. That's the power of character popularity.
Well they're a little late. The damage has been done. They should've just left them up.
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:SpoilerSeeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.
Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).SpoilerI don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.
I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.
You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:SpoilerSeeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.
Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).SpoilerI don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.
I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.
You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.
No, they didn't deserve that. Fans like that need to have their heads examined. No one deserves death threats from whiny, sick-in-the-head people just because they don't like a tv show or movie or book.
While I agree with that in part, the bad behavior falls strictly on the fandom and not the writers. If you give fudge to your neighbors across the street every year for Christmas, you shouldn't expect your next door neighbors to punch you in the face for not offering them any.
I wonder if the Gameloft game will be kept alive after this? Will the MLP comics continue?
I can agree with this. If fans are so upset by their ship being dumped to the point of harassment then they have bigger issues.Spoiler-shrug- I guess I just don't see how pairing the characters off = pandering to the bronies!! Maybe you've got a point with LyraBon, but the others.. I dunno. Lots of stories end with the heroes hooking up and having kids... Who's to say the crew didn't ship Cheese/Pinkie themselves, lol. Any pairing can be considered a "ship", the idiots that get het up over silly cartoon pairings would get angry about it no matter what :P
(not that I'm saying all shippers are silly, I'm talking about the ones that take it super seriously and get angry and vitriolic about it :P)
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity. The harder they cater to them the worse it'll get.They can go back and forth too- Every gen should be different. Some gens are more like g3 and some are more like FIM. No matter what they do though they should always remember their target audience
I think it is possible that G5 is going to flop hard if they go the way they're currently going. Bronies will hate it because it's too different, changing the identity of the characters they know/love for the purpose of milking them further. Other MLP fans will hate it because it isn't different enough, using the same characters again. Parents might even hate it because oh great the kids want ANOTHER Pinkie Pie/Rainbow Dash/whoever else?
All wishful thinking, of course, and we won't know anything about G5 for sure until it's announced. I just really miss the innocence of pre-FiM MLP, or heck, even early FiM when it was still a cute show for kids. I recently watched a random season 2 episode and it was honestly shocking just how far removed season 9 is from that. Seasons 1-2 had an air of innocence that's just not there anymore in the later seasons, from before bronies took over. I miss it.
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity.
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...I like the progression of colors in the mane and tail. Makes me think of a twilight which is spot on.
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity.
That would be perfect, but didn't bronies have bigger meltdowns over the show before, with Hasbro simply turning a blind eye?
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity. The harder they cater to them the worse it'll get.
English version has been leaked.
Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.
English version has been leaked.
Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.
This time it wasn't a leak. It was another full on hacking job.... By the same Russian that hacked DHX before. In addition to the remaining eps, unreleased shorts were also included, along with the actual original scripts for all of that, and every other episode made.
And there's almost no escape from the spoilers now. Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are getting filled with them, and now screenshots of spoilers are appearing as Youtube video thumbnails, which means you can be browsing pony vids and come across them.
English version has been leaked.
Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.
This time it wasn't a leak. It was another full on hacking job.... By the same Russian that hacked DHX before. In addition to the remaining eps, unreleased shorts were also included, along with the actual original scripts for all of that, and every other episode made.
And there's almost no escape from the spoilers now. Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are getting filled with them, and now screenshots of spoilers are appearing as Youtube video thumbnails, which means you can be browsing pony vids and come across them.
Oh, so we know now who extracted all those G5 concept arts?
Rumor had it that it was a Hasbro employee who was fired, lol.
The English version didn't reveal more than the Dutch dub did, darn.
I feel like everyone has been spoiled by now.
I feel bad for the artists and writers but I have a little devil on my shoulder cackling. G4 went out like a fart.
And that spoiler situation reminds me of when the last Harry Potter book came out and evil fans wrote in dust and snow who dies so even if you were just walking on the street you couldn't escape the spoilers :lol:
Oh yikes. :whoa:
Didn't realize it was that bad.
Making me feel guilty for watching it now...
I feel bad for the artists and writers but I have a little devil on my shoulder cackling. G4 went out like a fart.
And that spoiler situation reminds me of when the last Harry Potter book came out and evil fans wrote in dust and snow who dies so even if you were just walking on the street you couldn't escape the spoilers :lol:
Wow. Did they really? I wasn't into harry potter at the height of its popularity so I didn't know all that.
Which G5 concepts are we talking about here? o.o
That's fanart.Which G5 concepts are we talking about here? o.o
Assuming I'm talking about the same leaks as everyone else:
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...Ah, my friend said that leaked script details Twilight mane exactly as such! I think Hasbro got cheap on animating that :(
About the plot twist...SpoilerWhy did nobody acknowledge that Discord practically raised the dead? People complain about Twilight being too powerful but the chaos guy resurrected a "killed off" villain from the shadow zone like it's no big deal and then got him "killed" again.
Back when we thought he was Grogar it made sense because we were to believe Grogar is a necromancer. But now we know Discord is actually a necromancer on top of being already crazy powerful. He is more godlike than any of the Princesses could ever be :lookround:
Just please, PLEASE don’t make the new franchise shove friendship down our collective throats. Let’s just watch colorful equines go on little girly adventures and sell toys. That’s all I ever want MLP to be.
Alright, so the English version:Spoiler
I liked Luster Dawn in the beginning, when she thought friendship was a waste of time. She’s not wrong about any of what she said. Yet Twilight made her weak in the end. Of course this show is going to teach “the magic of friendship” and all that ridiculousness. But I didn’t like how quickly it turned from “friendship is a waste of time and energy” to “oh wait you guys still see each other every year? Yay friendship!”
Another thing... Twilight’s voice REALLY did not suit her new form. She still sounds like a tiny little pony, not a majestic regal beast of a horse. Then again, all she controls is friendship so I guess she doesn’t need to have a strong vocal presence to do that.
Did...did the real Princesses actually go to that nursing home? Granted I think they simply referred to Silver Shoals as a retirement village of some sort, but let’s get real. It’s a nursing home. Look at Luna! Does she *really* look like she needs to live in an old folks’ home?
Lastly, I’m still so glad Cozy Glow got turned to stone. I’ve seen stuff on various other pages where people are unhappy she never got to be redeemed, and that’s exactly why I’m thrilled she didn’t. I love that there are villains that have never been reformed. Like, I enjoy Steven Universe but the constant redeeming villains trope is grating and unrealistic. There are bad people in the world, and you can’t talk or befriend them into submission. I’m happy this series at least acknowledges that fact, where SU tries to paint the world in an overly naive, “love solves everything” kind of light. So I have to give this series credit where credit is due.
And now, onward to G5! Just please, PLEASE don’t make the new franchise shove friendship down our collective throats. Let’s just watch colorful equines go on little girly adventures and sell toys. That’s all I ever want MLP to be.
About the plot twist...SpoilerWhy did nobody acknowledge that Discord practically raised the dead? People complain about Twilight being too powerful but the chaos guy resurrected a "killed off" villain from the shadow zone like it's no big deal and then got him "killed" again.
Back when we thought he was Grogar it made sense because we were to believe Grogar is a necromancer. But now we know Discord is actually a necromancer on top of being already crazy powerful. He is more godlike than any of the Princesses could ever be :lookround:SpoilerEven though Grogar was never a necromancer in the original series. He was a sorcerer using a powerful object, but none of his powers had anything to do with the dead.
And Discord has officially become the worst interpretation of Q, an imp there to torment the character for his sick pleasure. They probably thought this was like the ending of "All Good Things" not realizing it was Picard's actions that led to the anomaly of doom (Q was just displacing him through time). Instead this comes off more like Mxyzptlk. Only Discord won't get whisked off the cornfield if he says or spells his name backwards.
Also, this twist is just plain stupid. It's one last middle finger to the older fans as this isn't Grogar but a fake. After Roid Tirek and the radioactive booger, they struck out on references to the past series. Do they hate the legacy of this brand at DHX? And, as I said, Discord has devolved into an imp. It's also a disservice to Twilight and crew that Discord set up a crisis for them to solve instead of this being an actual crisis.Spoiler
Cozy left me wondering where the heck she came from. She had no backstory at all and I think that was a waste.I remember how a friend said:
I guess the next villain after Cozy Glow would be a living teaparty, with episode called "See, We Are Totally Denouncing Girly Things!"
Tirek is probably the worst villain because yeah, his goal was just to be big?
Cozy left me wondering where the heck she came from. She had no backstory at all and I think that was a waste.I remember how a friend said:QuoteI guess the next villain after Cozy Glow would be a living teaparty, with episode called "See, We Are Totally Denouncing Girly Things!"
"tissues for dragonflitter* That it's still easy to find the episodes on YouTube amazes me. It feels like they just don't care ha. Funny that FiM lasted through the dawn of copyright coming down on YouTube through the super tricky new copyright system.
"tissues for dragonflitter* That it's still easy to find the episodes on YouTube amazes me. It feels like they just don't care ha. Funny that FiM lasted through the dawn of copyright coming down on YouTube through the super tricky new copyright system.
Right?? If there's an episode I want to watch it's pretty easily accessible most of the time. EQG I have had a harder time searching for though...
SpoilerI'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?SpoilerThee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.
As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.
I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.SpoilerI also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?
I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well. But maybe her looking like Celestia was supposed to be more symbolic.
Dragonflitter, "ranting and complaining to each other about how they would have done it better, like people in an old folks home" not only was that rude it is ageist.
Personally I enjoy here on the Arena people can express critique on G4, whereas in lots of G4 groups it seems like they really gloss over the bad things of FiM
I have not enjoyed FiM for several years sadly. The writing was just not that good, too busy adding in things for bronies, damaging friendship "lessons" and a lack of coherent characterization and world building/plot. I'm glad MLP is still going strong, just with so many high quality kids shows nowadays I want to see it reach those levels.
Also one thing I've never liked in any kind of media is pairing characters up just for the sake of having couples/wrapping things up. Especially characters that didn't express romantic interests beforehand.
It's hard to talk about the things you love when you're surrounded by people who just complain about it all the time. I felt on top of the world watching the finale of FiM, but coming here I just feel like a damp, clammy cloud covered me and took away the excitement I felt. I'm just going to save my write-up about all the amazing things in this finale and take it somewhere else.
People only care about ranting and complaining to each other about how they would have done it better, like people in an old folks home.
Still, I'd guess most people talking about FIM here probably enjoy aspects of it, or they wouldn't have stuck with it all the way to the end.
I watched all these episodes multiple times just to complain about them. Isn't that how it works? (Also bought the FiM brushables so I could hatewatch them in realtime) ;)
I watched all these episodes multiple times just to complain about them. Isn't that how it works? (Also bought the FiM brushables so I could hatewatch them in realtime) ;)
I totally get that! I'm very prone to pointing out flaws in shows and movies I like, and make fun of them. It seems fine to me, since I feel it's obvious that I like and am invested in what I'm talking about. But sometimes people think I'm just bashing what they like, and take offense. I don't think there was anything wrong with anyone's comments in this thread individually, but taken as a whole it might come off as overly negative to some, I dunno. It's important to keep in mind that we all see things from different perspectives. :)
I was being ironic in case it didn't quite translate into text.
It's hard to talk about the things you love when you're surrounded by people who just complain about it all the time. I felt on top of the world watching the finale of FiM, but coming here I just feel like a damp, clammy cloud covered me and took away the excitement I felt. I'm just going to save my write-up about all the amazing things in this finale and take it somewhere else.
:hug:
While people are of course allowed to and should criticize things, I understand how seeing an overwhelming negativity towards something you like can discourage you from participating in any discussion about it. (Flashbacks to G2 discussion in the late '90s :biggrin:) Still, I'd guess most people talking about FIM here probably enjoy aspects of it, or they wouldn't have stuck with it all the way to the end. It seems to be human nature to focus on the parts you didn't like or how you think it could've been done better.
I think if you have positive things to say you you should definitely share them to weigh up the negativity. Certainly FIM had a lot of good parts (otherwise it wouldn't have lasted 9 seasons) that should also be highlighted. :)