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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: kingluke on April 18, 2019, 03:20:49 AM
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Now the other day I got a lickety split in a small lot. She was wearing a pretty parlor saddle.
I don't know what I want with it. Like how did ponies get saddles (I know from megan, but aren't they like wtf that's so weird)
Some people think they look cute on the ponies but I'm not sure
So what do you think?
Bridels on ponies that are talking? cute accesoires? kinda weird?
let me know please.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Luke
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Interesting point.
My take on bridles and saddles has always been - hard to put on, hard to take off, risk of staining - don't use ;)
I guess even in the stories you don't see the ponies wearing tack. Not even when they are being ridden by someone else. But I was never a fan of Megan either, so never had any dolls riding my ponies. I guess I never thought of it as anything except their free choice, since I imagine they're capable of biting as well as giving the human an earful...
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I'm actually not a big fan of the saddles and bridles on ponies. I think the early playsets like the Show Stable and Pretty Parlor were made when Hasbro was trying a "Look! You can do some of the same things you'd do with real horses with MLP!" as those two playsets seem to focus more on the equestrian side of things as they are a stable that included jumps and place to groom your ponies that included saddles.
I agree with Taffeta that the ponies probably decide if they want to use the sadles and bridles or not. :)
I will have to check my copy of Baby Firefly's Adventure but I think there's a picture of Sundance or Baby Sundance wearing a bridle and she is still able to speak while wearing it.
Ponyfan
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I think they’re cute.
I know I had a bridle and saddle in my childhood collection - I’m pretty sure they’re long lost now, but I liked them as a kid. It didn’t ever strike me as weird, either. Horses and ponies wore bridles and saddles, so it made sense to me that MLPs would too. Even though they talk, and are sentient... maybe they just like them the same way people like cute handbags and hats??? I have no idea. I never thought about it very hard.
From a collector’s standpoint, I can see how they’d be troublesome. Easily broken, faffy, likely to stain the pony... an all-around nightmare.
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Generally speaking I prefer the dexterity of the pony wear. Since most of it is cloth, it is far easier to get on than any of the saddles and bridles. I don't like them much, and I do think they look a little odd. I don't remember ever seeing any of the ponies wearing any in the cartoon, and I certainly have never kept any tack on any of my ponies.
I do, however, adore the cloth(?) bridle that came with sundance. I don't own it, but I really would like to. It looks far far nicer than the plastic bridles; that one sort of subverts everything I said about any of the other tack!
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I have a good amount of extras that I don't know what to do with... I just think they look cute displayed hanging in the parlor.
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I liked them as a child, but I would not display my ponies with them today. Not only because I don't want to risk stains (but that is a huge reason, too), but also because it ruins the look of the pony for me. I don't even enjoy seeing the princesses with their hats, not only because they tend to fall off all the time, anyways, but just because it looks foreign. These aren't working horses meant to be ridden by a human rider.
Pony wear for baby ponies is cute, but other than that, I'm just not a huge fan. I like the pajama because I had it as a child, too, but the nostalgic value makes it here.
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I don't like the saddles and bridles and stuff. But I also don't want Megan or Molly and I prefer a human-less pony world so that's probably just me. I'm not a horse person but I'm a pony person, you know?
I do like other ponywear a LOT but tack is just weird.
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I don't like the saddles and bridles, like others have said they will stain and further it just didn't look cute. I don't see why they would have these things on sentient magical horses. In the beginning of the line they were going for more horse realism then got more into the fantastical as the line went on. I prefer less real stuff like tack and stables, and prefer more castles and magic.
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I think they are cute on Collector Poses. Never tried any other pose. I'm especially scared of them staining the pony, so no one wears them. I guess they could be used as props in an elaborate display.
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I think they are awkward to get to fit ponies other than the collector pose ones tbh
I've got loads but for reasons similar to what has already been mentioned, my ponies don't wear them!
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I checked my copy of Baby Firefly's Adventure and found a story about the baby ponies finding Sundance's lost halter and throwing her a birthday party.
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Ponyfan
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I don't like the saddles and bridles and stuff. But I also don't want Megan or Molly and I prefer a human-less pony world so that's probably just me. I'm not a horse person but I'm a pony person, you know?
I do like other ponywear a LOT but tack is just weird.
I'm with you on this. Megan and Molly are not my thing. For me I think it's because they are supposedly muggles from the 'real world' and I don't really like the idea of a bridge between the two worlds. When I'm in Ponyland I like to be completely immersed and for there to be no real world to think of. But I do like the idea of magical humans, fairy folk and animals etc in Ponyland. I assume that all ponies are magical creatures at least to some extent, so maybe there are magical humans among the other magical creatures in Ponyland? So maybe Earth ponies can tack themselves up if they ever want to give rides to thier bipedal Ponyland friends? Maybe it's like keeping a spare motorbike helmet in your garage even if you hardly ever use it.
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Eh, I ignore them. Saddles and bridles are for other horse toys, not mlps impo. Unfortunately they're so big they can't be used for other models.
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If I were a pony, I would wear them to a fancy event as a traditional costume. Pretty much like we still like to wear corsets and stuff to feel classy, even though they are not part of our daily life anymore. :D
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If I were a pony, I would wear them to a fancy event as a traditional costume. Pretty much like we still like to wear corsets and stuff to feel classy, even though they are not part of our daily life anymore. :D
That's a cute idea!
@Ponyfan - so maybe it's like her security blanket, that she takes around with her?
I also prefer a human free pony world. I suspect my dislike of Megan as a kid was partly because of anathema towards dolls, especially blond haired blue eyed dolls (I was blond and blue eyed aged 4, so the irony is palpable)...but also partly because I envied her a bit. If I couldn't go play with the ponies, why should she?
(Five year old Taffeta firmly believed ponyland was genuinely on the other side of the Rainbow).
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I think they look cute, too bad they never showed up in the cartoon.
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I think they're pretty to look at and have the ponies wear on occasion. I agree that they feel a bit off with the concept of the ponies as sentient independent beings, but I justify it as them being something the ponies adopted to help bipedal friends they deign to bear (After all, not everyone is as good at bareback as Megan and her siblings!), to help themselves carry baggage, and to wear for decorative purposes. I do agree that the rubber bridle and saddle from the Pretty Parlor and Show Stable are awkward compared to, say, the saddle from the Great Skates set and the fabric bridles sported by Sundance and Baby Sundance
I'm actually not a big fan of the saddles and bridles on ponies. I think the early playsets like the Show Stable and Pretty Parlor were made when Hasbro was trying a "Look! You can do some of the same things you'd do with real horses with MLP!" as those two playsets seem to focus more on the equestrian side of things as they are a stable that included jumps and place to groom your ponies that included saddles.
I think you're right on the money there.
I agree with Taffeta that the ponies probably decide if they want to use the sadles and bridles or not. :)
Hehe, quite.
I don't like the saddles and bridles and stuff. But I also don't want Megan or Molly and I prefer a human-less pony world so that's probably just me. I'm not a horse person but I'm a pony person, you know?
I do like other ponywear a LOT but tack is just weird.
I'm with you on this. Megan and Molly are not my thing. For me I think it's because they are supposedly muggles from the 'real world' and I don't really like the idea of a bridge between the two worlds. When I'm in Ponyland I like to be completely immersed and for there to be no real world to think of.
I don't think it's meant as a case of their world being meant as 'real' and the pony world not, except in the sense of them being proxies in the world for the audience/the kids playing with the toys. I think it's more a case of them being people from a mundane world being thrust into a strange and magical (but equally real) one. Rather a lot like Dorothy ending up in the Land of Oz, in fact (especially the books).
But I do like the idea of magical humans, fairy folk and animals etc in Ponyland. I assume that all ponies are magical creatures at least to some extent, so maybe there are magical humans among the other magical creatures in Ponyland?
Well, the cartoon and comics certainly bear out there being humans native to that world.
So maybe Earth ponies can tack themselves up if they ever want to give rides to thier bipedal Ponyland friends? Maybe it's like keeping a spare motorbike helmet in your garage even if you hardly ever use it.
I agree with this idea.
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As a kid, when G1 was out, I thought they were cute. On g4 ponies, it's kind of weird as they're practically two-legged themselves.
Real horses in tack can completely ignore us if they want and if we frustrate them, much worse.
Child me felt the ponies they were just making it so two-legs don't accidentally fall off and so they can communicate directions if the pony doesn't know where they're going. Or the rider sees something to avoid just from their higher vantage point. If you're galloping along, it's just a faster way to say "look out" instead of being too late. But ultimately, the pony was in control and just didn't want to be slowed down by plodding two-legged friends. Kind of like how we carry our smaller pets around. Even Twinkles had his own basket.
As an adult... eh. I'd rather be a pony. :)
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Yeah, I'm one of the people who prefers no humans in MLP, so I'm not too fond of saddles and bridles.
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I see them as something the ponies wear as a choice. Maybe they just want to go out on a fun ride with Megan or Molly. :shrug:
Also as a horse crazy person I like them as they are a small reminder that they're horses. I do see why other people think they're weird but I don't mind them.
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Now the other day I got a lickety split in a small lot. She was wearing a pretty parlor saddle.
I don't know what I want with it. Like how did ponies get saddles (I know from megan, but aren't they like wtf that's so weird)
Some people think they look cute on the ponies but I'm not sure
So what do you think?
Bridels on ponies that are talking? cute accesoires? kinda weird?
let me know please.
edit: thanks for commenting everyone :)
Thank you.
Cheers,
Luke
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I'm another person who doesn't really feel saddles and bridles fit in with (my version of) the world of MLP. I do have bipeds in my PonyLand (i.e. my doll collection) but they're just friends, not riders. If they want to go horse-riding they head for the Barbie horses. I remember in Monster High Avea Trotter the centaur gets annoyed when other monsters try to hitch a lift on her back, and I imagine my ponies feel the same way! "We're people, not transport!"
I keep accidentally acquiring saddles in ponywear bundles, which is annoying! I did use one for a photo once. I had Peachy wearing it and Twinkles sat on her back wearing a doll's riding hat. Now I have the little cat-carrying basket that came with the Pretty Parlour and I do use that: Happy Tails Tabby carries her vast number of cats about in it (but she is the pony equivalent of a crazy cat lady!).
I like the idea that the ponies might wear saddles and bridles as fancy dress, especially if (like my ponies) they live in a PonyLand that has humanoid creatures too. I tend to think of clothes as being optional for ponies: not really worn in day-to-day life but fun for special occasions.
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I have always found them stupid. I had the Pretty Parlour as a child, and I always wondered why on Earth Peachy would put a bridle and saddle on herself! She is nobody's pony, who is supposed to ride her? Ridiculous! So, ever since I was little, I haven't used them. My Ponyland was never and will never be a pony-people land! That's also the reason why I would never own a Megan or Molly.
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They were kinda sorta cute when the sets first came out, since yes, the Show Stable was supposed to mimic real horses more than get into the magic of ponies. I was very distraught when many MANY years later, as I pulled out my original collection, I found my poor Lemon Drop now has all these pink stains on her head and back from the bleeding of the saddle and bridle. :enraged:
I kept the poor girl, as she is my original Lemon Drop, but I'm still so upset about that. The saddles and bridles really aren't necessary, and to find out they actually harmed the ponies in the long run was a shame. The clothes were always more fun to me anyway, and let the imagination run wild a bit more.
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I wonder whether or not the new reproduction Pretty Parlor saddles/bridles would have the same color bleeding issues... :wonder:
As far as the fiction goes, I always liked Megan and Molly a lot. I love person-in-a-strange-world plotlines, and my childhood self found it downright painful to imagine a WHOLE WORLD of magical ponies with no one to ride them. XD Honestly, I’d be happier if later pony generations involved some human characters to lend that sense of awe to all the magic of Ponyland (which the ponies themselves mostly just consider commonplace). I guess I’m in the minority there, haha.
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Hard pass from me, except *maybe* the velvet one for baby Sundance, with a daisy on it...but that would be my only exception.
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I noticed that the US stories about ponyland were a lot less magical (except Ember's Dream, although that mentions New York?) than the UK ones, and the US hoofprint for ponies is older than the UK one...so maybe that real aspect was the original intention and then they kind of abandoned it and decided later ponies needed boas and tutus and other important equine accessories..?
I dunno, but I just remember there's a story tape about Glory who is depressed about being a unicorn in a world lacking in magic, and she gets to a magic world and loses her horn and...something? But ponyland is painted as a much less magical place, which might explain the more mundane stable stuff. Also, US Sundance has a bridle in her release with Megan. Neither release of Sundance in the UK has a bridle. Bridles only happen in the UK with the stable and I think the Gymkhana, unless the parlours had one, which they probably did?
In our stories the stable appeared rarely really, although Lemon Drop was always organising gymkhanas (strangely without Butterscotch). The Grooming Parlour(s) appear a little more but I feel like the (more humanesque) Crimp & Curl Hair Salon (Perm Shoppe) got more attention later on, when they got really comfortable with the ideas of ponies as more anthromorphic in their personality likes and dislikes, rather than equine.
That said! Ponies in the comic did always say fun things like pony feathers, happy hooves, etc. And they did eat a fair amount of oat cakes as well as ice cream...??
The more I think about this, the more questions I have about saddles XD.
Final thought, though we've all mentioned Megan and Molly, saddles and bridles predate M&M as toys.
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@Ponyfan - so maybe it's like her security blanket, that she takes around with her?
Maybe, I just went back to the story and Sundance lost it while she was swimming. :silly: So magical talking horses can swim without the bridle making them uncomfortable :lol:
I noticed that the US stories about ponyland were a lot less magical (except Ember's Dream, although that mentions New York?) than the UK ones, and the US hoofprint for ponies is older than the UK one...so maybe that real aspect was the original intention and then they kind of abandoned it and decided later ponies needed boas and tutus and other important equine accessories..?
I dunno, but I just remember there's a story tape about Glory who is depressed about being a unicorn in a world lacking in magic, and she gets to a magic world and loses her horn and...something? But ponyland is painted as a much less magical place, which might explain the more mundane stable stuff. Also, US Sundance has a bridle in her release with Megan. Neither release of Sundance in the UK has a bridle. Bridles only happen in the UK with the stable and I think the Gymkhana, unless the parlours had one, which they probably did?
In our stories the stable appeared rarely really, although Lemon Drop was always organising gymkhanas (strangely without Butterscotch). The Grooming Parlour(s) appear a little more but I feel like the (more humanesque) Crimp & Curl Hair Salon (Perm Shoppe) got more attention later on, when they got really comfortable with the ideas of ponies as more anthromorphic in their personality likes and dislikes, rather than equine.
That said! Ponies in the comic did always say fun things like pony feathers, happy hooves, etc. And they did eat a fair amount of oat cakes as well as ice cream...??
The more I think about this, the more questions I have about saddles XD.
Final thought, though we've all mentioned Megan and Molly, saddles and bridles predate M&M as toys.
We have the "Magic Rainbow" story in the US where the ponies find a rainbow that can grant wishes and the Glory story but I agree that the US stories don't seem to have as much magic in them as the UK ones. Here's the Glory story on LadyMoondancer's Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQkZ_8UVXSA
I like to think that all the ponies have some kind of magic. :)
Ponyfan
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As an adult I don't use them or display my MLP with them.
As a kid, I used the saddle and bridle type accessories off and on with my MLP. If I was playing with just ponies, I didn't use them. But I would often use some of my MLP's as horses for my Strawberry Shortcake dolls. So I suppose it came down to how I was playing at the moment, talking horses = no saddle, pet horses = saddle etc. I fortunately never had a problem with staining from the accessories because they were not left on the horses. Braided hair left for years on the other hand, that I did do.
I did stain my Rainbow Dash G3 Styling Pony by leaving it in doll clothing too long (about 3 months) and the red dye bled into her plastic.
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...so maybe that real aspect was the original intention and then they kind of abandoned it and decided later ponies needed boas and tutus and other important equine accessories..?
:lol:
In our stories the stable appeared rarely really, although Lemon Drop was always organising gymkhanas (strangely without Butterscotch).
I never knew about the Gymkhana playset until was an adult collector so I found the whole idea of Butterscotch being sporty a bit odd... I don't remember Butterscotch much in the comics, but I see that the UK fact file says they are both sporty.
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I don't mind them as long as you can take them off. I don't like things that are molded on like Tassles and her blanket
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Not a fan - too "horsey" for me. I'm not a horse person - I'm a MLP person. ;) Plus the fact that they stain is reason enough for me to stay away from them.
I love the idea of them being like fancy dress to ponies, though :3
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I'd never really thought about it til I read this thread and the thing that occurs to me is why do they need tack as who would ride them (With the exception of Megan and Sundance)
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I think they are cute on Collector Poses. Never tried any other pose. I'm especially scared of them staining the pony, so no one wears them. I guess they could be used as props in an elaborate display.
Had one on a Peachy when I brought her from eBay.uk, she had the stain from the saddle on her.
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...so maybe that real aspect was the original intention and then they kind of abandoned it and decided later ponies needed boas and tutus and other important equine accessories..?
:lol:
In our stories the stable appeared rarely really, although Lemon Drop was always organising gymkhanas (strangely without Butterscotch).
I never knew about the Gymkhana playset until was an adult collector so I found the whole idea of Butterscotch being sporty a bit odd... I don't remember Butterscotch much in the comics, but I see that the UK fact file says they are both sporty.
I never knew about it as a kid either. I had the Fact file but never knew who Butterscotch was. I guess maybe it was a bit early for me to have a playset like that - I was 2 in 1984 and 3 in 1985 - so nobody ever bought it for me. She's not in the comic at all I don't think. Aside Cotton C and Blossom, the collector ponies are kind of mysterious ghosts in the UK. They're in the factfile but pretty much nowhere else...
Ironically my ponies got to dress up as Tennis stars (usually CJ, dunno why, maybe Revolt at PE making her seem sporty?) and dinner date divas or in lingerie when I was about 4. But I had absolutely no horsey stable accessories until I was at least eight, and only really associated that stuff with Lemon Drop as she was always organising gymkhana and so on in the stories.
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...never knew who Butterscotch was... I had absolutely no horsey stable accessories until I was at least eight, and only really associated that stuff with Lemon Drop as she was always organising gymkhana and so on in the stories.
Yep I am so glad I started collecting as an adult, that was one of the first playsets I ever bought as an adult and it's one of my favourites. It's really simple and uses those wholesome primary colours that only the Euro stuff seems to have.
Post Merge: April 24, 2019, 01:14:23 PM
I just thought of something else... what about the Merry Go Round ponies?
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Post Merge: April 24, 2019, 01:14:23 PM
I just thought of something else... what about the Merry Go Round ponies?
...Oh my goodness, that's an entirely separate ethical debate!
Not least when I think of their (UK comic) origins of being trapped (enslaved?) inside the 'Whispering whirligig' by some nefarious soul...until Twirler and Thundercloud and whoever else helps to rescue them...
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Post Merge: April 24, 2019, 01:14:23 PM
I just thought of something else... what about the Merry Go Round ponies?
...Oh my goodness, that's an entirely separate ethical debate!
Not least when I think of their (UK comic) origins of being trapped (enslaved?) inside the 'Whispering whirligig' by some nefarious soul...until Twirler and Thundercloud and whoever else helps to rescue them...
Yep just thought I'd open a whole new can of worms.
I have my mitts on most of the UK comics 1 to 30 but I haven't read most of them yet.
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LM to the rescue again xD Whirligig begins in comic 124...
https://heckyeahponyscans.tumblr.com/post/178224144321
continues into 125...
https://heckyeahponyscans.tumblr.com/post/178257747451
But unfortunately LM doesn't have 126 posted yet!
However the big spoiler at the end is they find the MGR ponies. :) who are trapped in the whirligig thing waiting to be rescued.
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My girlfriend says she saw the MGR ponies and fakies that she had when she was little as being very theatrical types who liked to be dressed up at all times. Same with her Keypers horse. She remembers them setting up a drama group and saying that anyone who didn't have a fancy saddle couldn't join :lol:. Snobby little ponies :lol:!
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My girlfriend says she saw the MGR ponies and fakies that she had when she was little as being very theatrical types who liked to be dressed up at all times. Same with her Keypers horse. She remembers them setting up a drama group and saying that anyone who didn't have a fancy saddle couldn't join :lol:. Snobby little ponies :lol:!
That's hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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My girlfriend says she saw the MGR ponies and fakies that she had when she was little as being very theatrical types who liked to be dressed up at all times. Same with her Keypers horse. She remembers them setting up a drama group and saying that anyone who didn't have a fancy saddle couldn't join :lol:. Snobby little ponies :lol:!
Haha that's cute!
If we're talking about MGR ponies and saddle fakies, I can love those. I had Sunnybunch growing up, and the prettiest yellow fakie with a permanent decorative saddle and green and white hair.
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I think I was more disturbed by the fact that the saddles pop open on the Secret Surprise ponies more than the fact that they were wearing them. I didn't have any MGR ponies in my childhood herd but I guess I overlooked the saddles on them because they're Merry Go Round Ponies but in keeping with the Ponyland lore maybe the saddles are permanent reminders of their captivity and rescue from the Whirligig like the Twinkle Eye ponies gem eyes?
Ponyfan
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Gotta admit... I dont like that whole "horsey" stuff. Im a horse person, yes, but ponies were no riding ponies for me. I had the Show Stable as a kid (named Ponyhaus -> pony house in german) and I never really used the bridle and saddle. I still dont like that stuff much. A pony thats wearing clothes and eating ice cream and stuff does not wear a saddle :P
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I think I was more disturbed by the fact that the saddles pop open on the Secret Surprise ponies more than the fact that they were wearing them. I didn't have any MGR ponies in my childhood herd but I guess I overlooked the saddles on them because they're Merry Go Round Ponies but in keeping with the Ponyland lore maybe the saddles are permanent reminders of their captivity and rescue from the Whirligig like the Twinkle Eye ponies gem eyes?
Ponyfan
Eh, I always saw them more as giant jewelry boxes that didn't hold very much. I love them though.
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Gotta admit... I dont like that whole "horsey" stuff. Im a horse person, yes, but ponies were no riding ponies for me. I had the Show Stable as a kid (named Ponyhaus -> pony house in german) and I never really used the bridle and saddle. I still dont like that stuff much. A pony thats wearing clothes and eating ice cream and stuff does not wear a saddle :P
I have to add, now that I read the quote above : Ive never thought about the MGR ponies as wearing saddles XD I had Flower Boquet in childhood (still have her <3) and always thought of it as pretty flower decorations, hm :P
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So if they allow a human to ride them- they will need a saddle otherwise their back will get sore.
As a kid I didn't really like the way the bridle looked on my pony- but my Peachy did wear her saddle if she were going to give say a Moondreamer a lift- cuz she didn't want a sore back.
Saddles are more like protective equipment right? The bridle would just be if the pony had a rider who wanted to help/tell the pony where she wanted to go- cuz you know the wind is pretty loud and otherwise the pony would have to look behind her to hear or follow directions- and that could end in disaster :biggrin:
For a human free world- not necessary. Maybe they still have some stuff as relics though- like fun weird things like how humans kinda still like to wear things like bustles and crazy lace up boots.
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So if they allow a human to ride them- they will need a saddle otherwise their back will get sore.
As a kid I didn't really like the way the bridle looked on my pony- but my Peachy did wear her saddle if she were going to give say a Moondreamer a lift- cuz she didn't want a sore back.
Saddles are more like protective equipment right? The bridle would just be if the pony had a rider who wanted to help/tell the pony where she wanted to go- cuz you know the wind is pretty loud and otherwise the pony would have to look behind her to hear or follow directions- and that could end in disaster :biggrin:
For a human free world- not necessary. Maybe they still have some stuff as relics though- like fun weird things like how humans kinda still like to wear things like bustles and crazy lace up boots.
Saddles are definitely protective gear for a horse... especially if the rider isn't a pro. Having someone bouncing up and down on your spine really hurts. That's where stirrups come in.
My ponies were ridden by carebears though. So they were suppose to be light and fluffy.
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Awh, Carebears :)
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I am not sure anything rode on my ponies. *Ponders*. They certainly went abseiling, rambling, swimming (in puddles or at my friend's family's club)...they had sleepovers at my friends' homes when we traded for a night...and the petites tode my electric railway (I only had 1 station so they dididn't get very far, lol)...
But anything riding them...?
Possibly not.
I had a secret surprise as a kid. I saw her as a pony but the idea of putting things inside her gut was a bit reepy to me so I mostly didn't use the function...