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Title: South African Playsets?
Post by: Safflower on April 10, 2018, 07:23:59 AM
I recently got a lot from Craigslist, and the seller said she had more in her attic. She knew a fair bit about ponies and nirvanas. And she also said she had a South African Show Stable. I asked and she doesn't have Lemon Drop with it. She could be selling me some more stuff soon, and I could ask to see it! Maybe I could even buy it one day... If it is actually a SA playset. I haven't seen it, so I don't know for sure. So... Are there any SA playsets?
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 10, 2018, 09:10:01 AM
We know regular release ponies were sold in South Africa, so it might well be a HK/China made Show Stable :) on the other hand with out seeing it or it's box it is hard to tell exactly what it is. It could be the stable was imported and boxed in South Africa and sold that way, or it was stock that was regular, regular box and just imported.

You might find this spotlight helpful ^.^

http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,391115.0.html

May be one of our South African members can help us out :)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 11, 2018, 03:46:54 AM
I still have my Pretty Parlour and Show Stable, they look pretty much the same as normal to me. Sadly the boxes were never kept though... It did come with Lemon Drop. She was lost with most of my herd, but I still have most of the accessories.

We really got a diverse mix of ponies here so it could just be a regular one imported and sold in SA as was a lot of my little pony merchandise.

I can take a photo of it tonight if you would like to see?
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Safflower on April 11, 2018, 07:07:20 AM
Hmm... Yeah, I don't know if she meant it was a regular release sold in South Africa, or if it was an actual nirvana playset. I'm not sure if I will go over there again. Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 11, 2018, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: NightGliderSA on April 11, 2018, 03:46:54 AM
I still have my Pretty Parlour and Show Stable, they look pretty much the same as normal to me. Sadly the boxes were never kept though... It did come with Lemon Drop. She was lost with most of my herd, but I still have most of the accessories.

We really got a diverse mix of ponies here so it could just be a regular one imported and sold in SA as was a lot of my little pony merchandise.

I can take a photo of it tonight if you would like to see?

I would love to see :)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 12, 2018, 03:27:00 AM
I will take a photo of both of them and post when I can. It's raining today, so the light is pretty bad but I will do so as soon as possible  :)
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 17, 2018, 01:11:12 AM
For PKW  :):

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Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 17, 2018, 12:07:32 PM
Oooh :) thank you :)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on April 18, 2018, 05:33:04 AM
That's interesting. The Grooming Parlour says 'Pretty Parlor' on the label which means it's a US import...

Just thinking of the discussion in the other thread (spotlight) about distribution in South Africa, that's a firm piece of evidence of something from the US release being sold in South Africa, rather than through UK distribution.

Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 18, 2018, 05:34:33 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 18, 2018, 05:33:04 AM
That's interesting. The Grooming Parlour says 'Pretty Parlor' on the label which means it's a US import...

Just thinking of the discussion in the other thread (spotlight) about distribution in South Africa, that's a firm piece of evidence of something from the US release being sold in South Africa, rather than through UK distribution.



I was hoping you'd see this Taffeta, it is a big clue :)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on April 18, 2018, 05:43:35 AM
Quote from: pinkkittywinks on April 18, 2018, 05:34:33 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 18, 2018, 05:33:04 AM
That's interesting. The Grooming Parlour says 'Pretty Parlor' on the label which means it's a US import...

Just thinking of the discussion in the other thread (spotlight) about distribution in South Africa, that's a firm piece of evidence of something from the US release being sold in South Africa, rather than through UK distribution.



I was hoping you'd see this Taffeta, it is a big clue :)

Love pkw xxx

You know me. I always see the pointless irrelevant details and write walls of text about them ;)
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 18, 2018, 01:38:30 PM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 18, 2018, 05:43:35 AM
Quote from: pinkkittywinks on April 18, 2018, 05:34:33 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 18, 2018, 05:33:04 AM
That's interesting. The Grooming Parlour says 'Pretty Parlor' on the label which means it's a US import...

Just thinking of the discussion in the other thread (spotlight) about distribution in South Africa, that's a firm piece of evidence of something from the US release being sold in South Africa, rather than through UK distribution.



I was hoping you'd see this Taffeta, it is a big clue :)

Love pkw xxx

You know me. I always see the pointless irrelevant details and write walls of text about them ;)

Not pointless! In fact I hadn't noticed it was a Pretty Parlour sticker over a Grooming Parlour sticker and it's important.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: LadyGuinevere on April 20, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Could it be similar to the Australian market where they appeared to import from both UK and US?
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on April 20, 2018, 03:11:08 PM
Quote from: LadyGuinevere on April 20, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Could it be similar to the Australian market where they appeared to import from both UK and US?

That would be my guess too - but maybe not necessarily the same ranges.

Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 23, 2018, 02:30:06 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 20, 2018, 03:11:08 PM
Quote from: LadyGuinevere on April 20, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Could it be similar to the Australian market where they appeared to import from both UK and US?

That would be my guess too - but maybe not necessarily the same ranges.

Yes, I think they just randomly threw ponies our way from where ever. We have a lot of Italian manufactured ponies here. Too many to have been brought over by happy holidaying pony purchasers IMO, so they must have been sold here too. But why? Who can say...
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 23, 2018, 05:33:22 AM
Quote from: NightGliderSA on April 23, 2018, 02:30:06 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 20, 2018, 03:11:08 PM
Quote from: LadyGuinevere on April 20, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Could it be similar to the Australian market where they appeared to import from both UK and US?

That would be my guess too - but maybe not necessarily the same ranges.

Yes, I think they just randomly threw ponies our way from where ever. We have a lot of Italian manufactured ponies here. Too many to have been brought over by happy holidaying pony purchasers IMO, so they must have been sold here too. But why? Who can say...

I have noticed that there are a fair number of Italian ponies that crop up in SA, far more than would account for "holiday" ponies.

Long shot question: you don't have any backcards or leaflets from your childhood do you?

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on April 23, 2018, 05:45:03 AM
I may be wrong about this, but I think that it's true some Italian ponies were sold in parts of Scandinavia? I have vague recollections of an Italian Seashell (?) on a Danish card? And we also know that Truly and Cupcake's set was sold there...AND sold in South Africa...

It could though simply be that different store chains in SA had different import arrangements depending on their connections. Like Woolworths supplemented our line here with confusingly US packaged ponies like Candy Canes, Brush & Grows and the like, maybe there's some element of that over there too...?

Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 23, 2018, 05:52:23 AM
ooooh I like your thinking :)

Yes, there is an Italy Seashell on a Danish card :)

We still don't quite understand the roll of Prima Toys other than that the SA card we have seen has the logo on and that they are a big toy distributor in South Africa. It would fit that there may well have been other imports that worked in a similar way to Woolworths in the UK.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 24, 2018, 02:29:49 AM
That is a good point Taffeta, and probably gets us somewhere near the truth. A lovely Scandanavian Truly has just been sold locally, complete with her stand. And I know of someone who found both her and Cupcake in a thrift store.

@ pkw, I only have one backcard from my childhood ponies sadly, which was for Tickle. I can send you the image of that if you like? I have also asked some other collectors I know to see if they have.
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 24, 2018, 06:07:14 AM
It is actually exciting to hear you have a Tickle backcard and I would LOVE to see a picture of it :) I am certain Taffeta will be excited to hear this as well. It may well be a BIG help in understanding some of the release that you got.

Do you remember which ponies you had as a child at all?

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on April 24, 2018, 06:35:39 AM
You beat me to it but yes...was it horizantal or vertical o.o
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 24, 2018, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on April 24, 2018, 06:35:39 AM
You beat me to it but yes...was it horizantal or vertical o.o

Exactly!!!

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1985_rainbowponies.htm

(link for those who may be wondering what Taffeta and I mean)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 25, 2018, 01:37:23 AM
Yes, I know about Taffeta's quest  :)

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Replacement Tickle in front of 'her' card. She was purchased in SA:
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And where she was bought from originally (a local chain store):
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With regards to my childhood ponies, I still have Bowtie, Powder and Surf Dancer (sea pony). And to the best of my memory I used to have: Bubbles, Seashell, Tickle, Moonstone, Sky Dancer (Rainbow Pony), Lemon Drop, Peachy, Windy (SA Windy), Starshine, Sunlight, Baby Surprise, Baby Cotton Candy and Baby Blossom. My best friend had Cotton Candy and Wavedancer (seapony) and another friend had Hopscotch, whom I coveted but so much. Other people had Twinkle Eye ponies, Glow 'n Show and flutter ponies. I remember wanting them SO badly. We also had Chief, Wigwam and Tex for sure. Another friend of mine had, and still has, Sky Dancer (winger) and Italian Parasol among others that I have already mentioned.

And, finally, another collector has told me that she has a few of her childhood backcards in storage. She is ill right now, but has promised to take photos and send to me when she is better.

Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2018, 04:44:37 AM
Even so, that does tell us some interesting things. What we can't know from that is whether that store was importing US stuff or whether that was your standard release over there but it does tell us something (even if it doesn't resolve the mystery of the horizantal card).

Also Hopscotch is in the set with Truly and Cupcake I *think* so that would explain her presence :)

Most of the ones you list were sold in the US and the UK except for those odd couple of examples. Baby Surprise and baby Cotton Candy we know were sold together on card over there at one point so maybe you got them that way but it's also possible you got them in the normal standard set (do you remember if they came with accessories?) as you had Baby Blossom as well.

Surf Dancer wasn't sold in the US, though, so she must have either come from the UK or from Europe if Italian. Which makes it possible your friend's was Wavebreaker, not Wavedancer, but as they are identical except for the shell colour, it would be difficult to know for sure unless you remember whether she had a yellow or a purple shell.
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 25, 2018, 05:10:58 AM
Thank you so much for your reply and the picture of Tickle's backcard :)

Do you remember if Baby Surprise and Cotton Candy came together? There is a picture of them carded here :) (you may have to scroll down) They were sold carded in SA :)

https://mylittleponystickergallery.weebly.com/international-stickers.html

Taffeta, Hopscotch was sold with the Pony Friends set, here is an image of the backcard :)

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=384152

The horizontal card does really mix things up doesn't it? aaaaaand I knew the name Surf Dancer would make your ears prick up ;) it made mine prick up too.

What a crazy mix this is!

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on April 25, 2018, 07:19:59 AM
I believe she is the Italian Surf Dancer because of her eyes. I really cannot remember the colours of either shells; so yes my friend could have had Wavebreaker. The names are very similar

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The baby ponies were separate and came in boxed sets. I still have one play pen and a set of rings I think. There were also baby sea ponies, but I was never given any sadly. I think that my first ponies came on vertical cards: they are really familiar.
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 25, 2018, 07:56:42 AM
She is indeed Italian, she should have an I carved under her tail curl. The lack of forelock and the way both rows of mane run together also show she is Italian as well as the blue eyes.

Ah, it was worth asking about the babies since we have seen them carded, but how nice you got both with the accessories :) I felt a little sad they didn't have any accessories on the card.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on May 07, 2018, 01:42:07 AM
So, I have come into touch with another collector whom I did not know before and who actually lives in my area. And she tells me that she has been collecting since she was 14 and kept her ponies MIB... So I think that this will help enormously. We are going to arrange to get together, but she needs to get them out of storage so it will probably take a few weeks. I will post once I can  :)
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on May 07, 2018, 08:55:09 AM
:wow:

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on May 07, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: pinkkittywinks on May 07, 2018, 08:55:09 AM
:wow:

Love pkw xxx

PKW is booking her airline ticket now and planning a ninja raid ;)
XD
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on May 08, 2018, 01:26:59 AM
Quote from: Taffeta on May 07, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: pinkkittywinks on May 07, 2018, 08:55:09 AM
:wow:

Love pkw xxx

PKW is booking her airline ticket now and planning a ninja raid ;)
XD

 :lol:
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on May 09, 2018, 06:00:10 AM
:P

You are lucky I am a bad traveller, at least until they invent teleportation ;)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Taffeta on May 10, 2018, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: pinkkittywinks on May 09, 2018, 06:00:10 AM
:P

You are lucky I am a bad traveller, at least until they invent teleportation ;)

Love pkw xxx


Ah, if only they had invented that. It would make life so much better.

Looking forward to any information or images that come out of this...South Africa is a region I've been really interested in finding out about for a long time...
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: ZuluSeashell on May 14, 2018, 06:24:32 AM
Hey guys!

So NightgliderSA told me about this thread and asked if she can upload the pics of the backcards from my childhood. I cannot seem to figure out how to do it haha! They range from US releases to UK releases and an SA backcard from South African Seashell.
There's also a photo of the ponies i had as a child. maybe that will be of interest. All of them I got in SA except Baby Quackers which I got on holiday in Holland in 1989. You can't really see her in the pic though anyway.

I just posted on the SA spotlight too in case you are interested.

xx :)

Post Merge: May 14, 2018, 06:27:39 AM

oh, and just to clarify; there were NO SA playsets... I mean they were all UK or US ones. There were no playsets in the SA pony range with prima Toys labeling.
I do know that the Pretty parlour was released here with Italian Peach in it...strange...
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on May 14, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Italy did make ponies for export and Italy ponies were sold throughout Europe.  Italy Peachy was sold with the Grooming Parlour in some European countries.

It hardly surprises me that you have an Italy Peachy since other Italian ponies seem to crop up there.

You have to upload your images to a hosting site such as Flickr or Imgur. You upload the images onto those sites and share the links here. If you have a Facebook page you can share links from Facebook here, but you have to make sure the album is public.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Safflower on May 14, 2018, 07:31:21 PM
Just an update: I'm getting a few more ponies she found from her next weekend (yay end of hard school year present) and I'll ask about it. I'll hopefully be able to take pictures! If it's not a regular school stable lol
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on May 15, 2018, 03:23:10 AM
That will be interesting to see Safflower  :)

Re: ZuluSeashell's photo's I have edited them for size and uploaded to Flickr. However I don't have time to put them on the arena now; she had a lot (yay!). This I will do later. And I have also sent an email explaining how I upload photos to the arena as it can be tricky in the beginning until you are used to it. So watch this space: photos coming tonight after I have sorted out my kids  :)

Here is a photo of her childhood collection, all of them purchased in SA. Please remember - these are not my ponies, they belong to ZuluSeashell
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Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on May 15, 2018, 10:35:31 AM
Wooooooooooow :wow:

Thank you so much for posting that picture Nightglider and what beautiful ponies.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: NightGliderSA on May 15, 2018, 10:41:01 AM
It's a pleasure pkw  :)

Just a note to all that ZuluSeashell's photos of her SA herd as well as her collection of backcards have been posted under the spotlight for the SA Ponies. There is a lot of discussion happening around the topic, perhaps it is best to try to keep it all together in one place.
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on May 15, 2018, 02:49:32 PM
Agreed ^.^

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: South African Playsets?
Post by: Safflower on May 23, 2018, 07:27:06 AM
I bought another lot from her, and she said the stable was at her mothers house. It'll be a while until I see it, or if I ever see it. She did tell me it didn't come with any ponies though.
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