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My disclaimer - all my post is based on you guys giving me second hand information, since I have no intention of reading this myself. But with that said...SpoilerThe fact they make a g1 pony say 'everypony' fills me with rage. It fits one of my most hated G4 customs, the desire to impose G4 everything on older generations where it doesn't belong.Surprise is basically just being reinterpreted as Pinkie Pie because she's the concept 6 for Pinkie Pie. I don't think it requires a deeper explanation, since this is a G4 comic pretending to do G1 stuff to try and grab new readers given their own is fading away. But I can't imagine any actual G1 person would not notice these things.That all said, G1 ponies do not have a set canon in their characterisation, so even if it's ugly, it's not out of keeping with G1 as a whole. So I am less mad about the warping of Surprise, given that if I'm honest with myself, I get just as annoyed by some of the G1 animation characterisations compared with the comic, and yet know they're valid.On the tales pony. My initial thought was that it was a positive thing, as it maybe demonstrated they were part of G1, but I've rethought based on the possible (?) mention G3 Minty is in there. If so, Bon Bon may be there to 'represent G2' and in which case, it's as disgusting as Galaxy saying 'everypony'. It may be no such thing but otherwise using a tales pony seems a bit random. So that would be my instinct.On the subject of sliding down the rainbow. I have a feeling this may have happened in the comic around the waterfall at some point. I don't have any issues with it at all really. It's just a bit odd.So in summary - 'everypony' and Bonbon - if representing G2 - are disgusting. Everything else is just their creative freedom, even if it's a bit lame.I feel like it's even moire mysterious why they would want to do a G1xG4 crossover given they don't understand even the first thing about G1. It feels like a very poor fanfiction that is somehow getting sold instead of just read online? They should just have left it G4.
Quote from: Taffeta on January 24, 2022, 08:36:53 AMMy disclaimer - all my post is based on you guys giving me second hand information, since I have no intention of reading this myself. But with that said...SpoilerThe fact they make a g1 pony say 'everypony' fills me with rage. It fits one of my most hated G4 customs, the desire to impose G4 everything on older generations where it doesn't belong.Surprise is basically just being reinterpreted as Pinkie Pie because she's the concept 6 for Pinkie Pie. I don't think it requires a deeper explanation, since this is a G4 comic pretending to do G1 stuff to try and grab new readers given their own is fading away. But I can't imagine any actual G1 person would not notice these things.That all said, G1 ponies do not have a set canon in their characterisation, so even if it's ugly, it's not out of keeping with G1 as a whole. So I am less mad about the warping of Surprise, given that if I'm honest with myself, I get just as annoyed by some of the G1 animation characterisations compared with the comic, and yet know they're valid.On the tales pony. My initial thought was that it was a positive thing, as it maybe demonstrated they were part of G1, but I've rethought based on the possible (?) mention G3 Minty is in there. If so, Bon Bon may be there to 'represent G2' and in which case, it's as disgusting as Galaxy saying 'everypony'. It may be no such thing but otherwise using a tales pony seems a bit random. So that would be my instinct.On the subject of sliding down the rainbow. I have a feeling this may have happened in the comic around the waterfall at some point. I don't have any issues with it at all really. It's just a bit odd.So in summary - 'everypony' and Bonbon - if representing G2 - are disgusting. Everything else is just their creative freedom, even if it's a bit lame.I feel like it's even moire mysterious why they would want to do a G1xG4 crossover given they don't understand even the first thing about G1. It feels like a very poor fanfiction that is somehow getting sold instead of just read online? They should just have left it G4.SpoilerI hated it so much when I read it. NOT G1 AT ALL!The Surprise stuff irritates me because she is my absolute favorite pony and it makes me RAGE comparing her to Pinkie Pie. No matter the circumstances I'm also upset with myself when my mind is hyper focused on the tv show and forgetting about the UK comics, I need to re read my collection. My nostalgia kicks in too hard Oh my I forgot all about the "Tales is G2" thing I decided to just show the preview pages I got to see:Spoilervisitors can't see pics , please register or loginSpoilervisitors can't see pics , please register or loginSpoilervisitors can't see pics , please register or loginI do appreciate that Surprise's hair isn't yellow I'm dreading to read the full comic at midnight With the Transformer comic, my best friend showed me a page just because of LGBTQ+ content (if I'm thinking clearly), but other than that I have no clue if it's any good.MIDNIGHT EDIT: REVIEW…. SpoilerWhen I thought I couldn’t hate it more, they found a way! Though the beginning had a kind of nice pace…they messed it all up and hit fast forward! Surprise continues her horrible “valley/surf guy” dialog….Ugh! Just so much was rushed in this issue why did the writers and such hype that they liked G1??? Cause I don’t see it
I do feel like G1 ponies don't need to speak G4-ponyish. They can leave that to the G4 ponies, and speak their own way, surely?SpoilerIt's just I guess evidence that the people writing aren't fans of G1, they're more likely fans of G4 who are not hostile to G1, but don't know a lot about it. The smooze plot is good indication of that, since the smooze ate the Rainbow of Light, and that's also Megan dressed from RaMC...not the movie.Baby Lickety Split must've grown up, and Bon Bon and Minty have never seen smooze, so what use they'll be I can't tell you.I actually can't remember if Galaxy is in the movie. She probably is, timeline wise, but the fact I can't remember makes me think she's an odd choice of spokespony.Yeah, I get that they're not actively mocking G1, but it's not exactly respectful either, to just merge them into the G4 world like they don't believe G1 has anything of its own to offer. It's not a negative light, but it's not really a positive one, since they're just there as props to further (a weak) G4-based narrative. Don't get me wrong, that's not an attack on G4, just the story they're building here is weak because they don't seem to know quite what they want from it. New characters, then old characters, then changing characters...It's just a shame that they could have done so much to make this a really good story between two different types of pony, and it didn't happen. And I don't like generational crossovers, but it could have been done so much better for the fans of both.Sidenote - it's hard to know why any G1 pony would be surprised at Pinkie Pie's usual attention seeking nonsense clumsiness, given the existence of Fizzy.And if BonBon is there for the reason I think, that's not good. We shouldn't endorse something that wants to steamroller over the existence of a whole generation simply because they didn't have a cartoon. I suppose devil's advocate says that everything is there to be reinterpreted through a new lens, otherwise it doesn't stay alive. And it's a way to connect G4 fans who are curious to the older generations through something they understand...? Maybe? But it's not really a crossover. There's nothing in this for G1 fans, unless they're also fans of G4...though if I were a G4 fan, I think I'd be confused.
There's not much for G4 fans either because it's a really lame comic issue. The comics have always been rather hit or miss, but the series mostly focuses on random villains that G4 fans aren't given a reason to care about. They usually put a lot of new characters into the comics, but those comics can often be weaker.
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