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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2020, 03:33:28 PM »
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2020, 03:34:40 PM »
Polymer clay and Apoxie Sculpt are different. They feel different, act different and work different. Apoxie is messy, for one thing. A lot of people have a reaction to it (it makes my hands itchy). It doesn't hold detail as well as polymers and in my personal opinion the finished product looks... Bloated? Uh... not sure how to describe it. Polymers are sleek. Apoxie looks bulky.

Plus, as Tailrusted said, the window to work with Apoxie is short. Some like a longer working time and to be able to make changes.

Apoxie is great to have for household use. I fixed a garden statue with it and it's also good for reinforcing things. I still us it on customs, but it has a utility role rather than a creative one.

Honestly, I was enamored with it at first but as time went on I became less happy with it. Some people can do impressive things with Apoxie Sculpt, but there's a reason most professionals use polymers.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2020, 04:30:02 PM »
Honestly, I was enamored with it at first but as time went on I became less happy with it. Some people can do impressive things with Apoxie Sculpt, but there's a reason most professionals use polymers.

Thanks for the perspectives on this, everyone! I’ve worked with both Apoxie sculpt and polymer clays on doll customs, but never for detail work.

As far as skin reactions go... does that only apply to working with “raw” Apoxie? It doesn’t cause problems once hardened, does it?
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2020, 06:17:36 PM »
I would think not, but the packaging mine came in doesn't specify.  It does say you should wear a mask while sanding it, though.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2020, 06:53:48 PM »
So if it's safe to bake G4s as long as you're careful, what about other generations?
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2020, 08:34:40 PM »
So if it's safe to bake G4s as long as you're careful, what about other generations?

I've baked a few G1s with sculpey on them without issue.  275 F, 30 min, no problem.  Interestingly they were all white ponies, but I don't think that would matter?

Edit: note that there was no hair in these ponies, only the bodies!
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2020, 09:14:38 PM »
For me it was just easier to find and buy Sculptey (Joann Fabrics store) than apoxie.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2020, 10:06:37 PM »
So if it's safe to bake G4s as long as you're careful, what about other generations?

I've baked a few G1s with sculpey on them without issue.  275 F, 30 min, no problem.  Interestingly they were all white ponies, but I don't think that would matter?

Edit: note that there was no hair in these ponies, only the bodies!

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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2020, 10:09:32 PM »
Well I just found out the hard way that 230 degrees in a convection oven was a little too toasty for poor Cinnamon Chai. Her hair got a little burnt and  the tips of her ears melted. Not too noticeable, though.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2020, 08:39:11 AM »
I'm curious.
Is your oven a big oven, or a small one?
I'm thrown off since I'm used to large ovens that have a convection setting.. but when I look up "convection oven", they seem to be mostly counter top.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2020, 02:42:11 PM »
What would be the advantage of using an oven-bake clay like Sculpey over Apoxie sculpt, out of curiosity?

I have actual easy access to sculpey clay and apoxie sculpt is expensive and I'd have to order it.


I have never had a pony melt. I have even baked several fakies. Low and slow and check on them frequently.

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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2020, 02:52:47 AM »
Another way to cure (garden) polymer clay is to submerge it in boiling water. It’s a nice method because the clay doesn’t come out scorched. I’d suggest doing research on how long to boil it, I know there are plenty of good sources online if you search for boil curing polymer clay.

Now, one drawback I’ve heard about is that clay that hasn’t properly cured (say, the inside of a thick piece is still soft)  can cause chemical reactions in the pony’s vinyl that can cause it to break down or leech. I’ve even been warmed by doll customizers that even cured sculpey can cause issues with plastic, though I’m no expert on that. I’ve got no personal experience with boil curing polymer clay pieces onto toys; I’ve only used the boil cure method for sculptures that are all clay pieces. But, if nothing else, it’s certainly well known that it’s  just fine to boil a My Little Pony. I say it can’t hurt to experiment. You could use a fakie as a test subject.

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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2020, 04:07:42 AM »
Boiling isn't a good way to cure polymer clay. The water simply doesn't get hot enough, it doesn't matter how long you boil it for. It will crumble over time.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2020, 04:52:41 AM »
Also if you need an alternative, you could look into a 2 part epoxy putty. I thought it was similar to apoxy sculpt, but i'm thinking maybe not after the comments.

I've used it to resculpt stuff on anime figurines.
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Re: Is it safe to bake a pony?
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2020, 05:55:07 PM »
Also if you need an alternative, you could look into a 2 part epoxy putty. I thought it was similar to apoxy sculpt, but i'm thinking maybe not after the comments.

I've used it to resculpt stuff on anime figurines.

I was also under the impression that these were the same thing, just Brand Name vs. generic... Mine is a 2-part, and seems to work well with plastics (no leeching, discoloring, etc., even after years in storage).
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