Multigen crossover idea?

[SpacePinto]

It's silly to say Hasbro only could / would combine gens of ponies to mock the older generations.  The Transformers IDW comic has characters from almost every generation in their universe, even though it's primarily based on G1 Transformers.  Beast Wars characters, Japanese-only characters, RID 2001 characters, I can even think of a Beast Machines character in there, and god knows that show was not a fan-favorite, lol.

Except TF doesn't have a rabid fanbase of the latest generation that hates all the earlier generations of the very same franchise with pashion and for some reason Hasbro does everything it can to pander to said fanbase. Let's be honest, if an official cross-generation MLP movie/comic ever came out, they would try to portray the older generations as negatively as possible while showing G4 as cool and awesome just to give bronies exactly what they want.

[SaraMari]

Mana Minori this is probably getting OT now and I might not be versed enough to talk about it. They/we do have opinions but mostly express them here in fb groups I see. Maybe it's because they've been attacked but bronies for doing it in the past, maybe they feel like it won't matter, maybe they prefer to ignore it and hope it goes away

On the IG post I mentioned I saw only one person say hey why are you crapping on MLP history, with 22 likes. Maybe G1 fans don't really interact much with current MLP social media/avoid it

Except TF doesn't have a rabid fanbase of the latest generation that hates all the earlier generations of the very same franchise with pashion and for some reason Hasbro does everything it can to pander to said fanbase

Ah yes good points. Hasbro made lots of money off of bronies and fall over themselves trying to get more, so they would continue to pander in a crossover rather than bring all generation fans together. Low hanging fruit

[Leave a Whisper]

It's silly to say Hasbro only could / would combine gens of ponies to mock the older generations.  The Transformers IDW comic has characters from almost every generation in their universe, even though it's primarily based on G1 Transformers.  Beast Wars characters, Japanese-only characters, RID 2001 characters, I can even think of a Beast Machines character in there, and god knows that show was not a fan-favorite, lol.

Except TF doesn't have a rabid fanbase of the latest generation that hates all the earlier generations of the very same franchise with pashion and for some reason Hasbro does everything it can to pander to said fanbase. Let's be honest, if an official cross-generation MLP movie/comic ever came out, they would try to portray the older generations as negatively as possible while showing G4 as cool and awesome just to give bronies exactly what they want.

There is always generational division in every long time franchise, and iterations that get fairly or unfairly dumped on. Genwunners and Bayverse TF fans do in fact go at each other's throats on the board I frequent. I've seen people sniping at BW, KP, Animated, RiD, RiD15 and Prime fans. Like the TP and Arena however, their mods are stern but fair and will put a stop to flame wars before they get bad.

Companies professionally don't give a hoot about a squabbling fanbase. All they care about is that their product sells. These days cartoon companies unfortunately do sometimes add fuel to the fire.

[Mana Minori]

Mana Minori this is probably getting OT now and I might not be versed enough to talk about it. They/we do have opinions but mostly express them here in fb groups I see. Maybe it's because they've been attacked but bronies for doing it in the past, maybe they feel like it won't matter, maybe they prefer to ignore it and hope it goes away

On the IG post I mentioned I saw only one person say hey why are you crapping on MLP history, with 22 likes. Maybe G1 fans don't really interact much with current MLP social media/avoid it

didn’t mean for it to get off topic. And if anyone does feel that way in this fandom, I’m sorry that they do. But I like last gens and hate as much as you guys that it has been thrown under the bus, when Faust brought g4 to life with MAD respect to the past gens. I really do just wish that fellow past gen fans could stand up and fight for what they love and be heard just as much as the current gen fans do, rather than rolling over and accepting their gens getting trashed on- by both g4 fans and seemingly the company itself.

But since I have to try and steer this back on topic- since it seems that’s there is a unanimous vote that Hasbro won’t fairly make a multigen pony movie- can you guys see potential for any kind of fan made movie involving a joint effort and Collab between fans of gens across the board? (Non biased ones, at least?)

[Taffeta]

Personally I don't need a generational crossover.

The generations are all fine in their own worlds, with their own fans.

I also don't see the need to go on a crusade to liberate the reputation of older generations. For me the need to do this suggests that to be a G1 fan requires some kind of recognition or acceptance from newer generation fans. It doesn't. What they think is irrelevant. We were here before they were. We will be here when they are gone. Moreover, they're not obliged to enjoy G1 any more than we're obliged to make them try.

In short, I don't collect MLP because I want some teenagers who draw pony porn and flap about memes to acknowledge me. I collect MLP because I grew up with it, I'm interested in its history, and I have a lot of good memories and nostalgia. Am I interested in tainting those things with arguments over stuff with random strangers? Not really.

There aren't many people here now who remember when G2 came out and the conflicts then. I was over that kind of intergenerational conflict 20 years ago and I'm sure anyone else who remembers it was as well. It's just not important to score points.

And that goes back to the intergenerational stuff as well. It's a suggestion that somehow older gens need to be tied to FIM and vice versa in some multimedia animated way...and they don't. My Little Pony is a toyline up until 2011, and that's fine. They don't need to be reinvented, modernised or recrafted to get the attention of this generation, because the previous generations weren't aimed at this generation of ponypeople.

So yeah. A big no to multigen. I am already not keen on Hasbro's attempts at 'retro' MLP stuff this past year, and more of the same would be frankly disappointing.

Also, Lauren Faust's comments in the Toys that Made Us Doc were cringeworthy to say the least. I have no time for her, because she didn't put G1 into FIM, nor did she have 'mad respect' for it. What she actually did was put her childhood into FIM, which in itself is fine, but should not be confused with anything actually officially 'G1'.

[LadyMoondancer]

It's silly to say Hasbro only could / would combine gens of ponies to mock the older generations.  The Transformers IDW comic has characters from almost every generation in their universe, even though it's primarily based on G1 Transformers.  Beast Wars characters, Japanese-only characters, RID 2001 characters, I can even think of a Beast Machines character in there, and god knows that show was not a fan-favorite, lol.

Except TF doesn't have a rabid fanbase of the latest generation that hates all the earlier generations of the very same franchise with pashion and for some reason Hasbro does everything it can to pander to said fanbase. Let's be honest, if an official cross-generation MLP movie/comic ever came out, they would try to portray the older generations as negatively as possible while showing G4 as cool and awesome just to give bronies exactly what they want.

I don't think G4 has a rabid fanbase anymore either.  The G4 fanbase that was so active at the height of FIM has largely dispersed.

There is always generational division in every long time franchise, and iterations that get fairly or unfairly dumped on. Genwunners and Bayverse TF fans do in fact go at each other's throats on the board I frequent. I've seen people sniping at BW, KP, Animated, RiD, RiD15 and Prime fans. Like the TP and Arena however, their mods are stern but fair and will put a stop to flame wars before they get bad.

Companies professionally don't give a hoot about a squabbling fanbase. All they care about is that their product sells. These days cartoon companies unfortunately do sometimes add fuel to the fire.

Yeah, this too.  The Transformers fandom is way more volatile and opinionated than the MLP fandom and always has been.

[Leave a Whisper]

It's silly to say Hasbro only could / would combine gens of ponies to mock the older generations.  The Transformers IDW comic has characters from almost every generation in their universe, even though it's primarily based on G1 Transformers.  Beast Wars characters, Japanese-only characters, RID 2001 characters, I can even think of a Beast Machines character in there, and god knows that show was not a fan-favorite, lol.

Except TF doesn't have a rabid fanbase of the latest generation that hates all the earlier generations of the very same franchise with pashion and for some reason Hasbro does everything it can to pander to said fanbase. Let's be honest, if an official cross-generation MLP movie/comic ever came out, they would try to portray the older generations as negatively as possible while showing G4 as cool and awesome just to give bronies exactly what they want.

I don't think G4 has a rabid fanbase anymore either.  The G4 fanbase that was so active at the height of FIM has largely dispersed.

There is always generational division in every long time franchise, and iterations that get fairly or unfairly dumped on. Genwunners and Bayverse TF fans do in fact go at each other's throats on the board I frequent. I've seen people sniping at BW, KP, Animated, RiD, RiD15 and Prime fans. Like the TP and Arena however, their mods are stern but fair and will put a stop to flame wars before they get bad.

Companies professionally don't give a hoot about a squabbling fanbase. All they care about is that their product sells. These days cartoon companies unfortunately do sometimes add fuel to the fire.

Yeah, this too.  The Transformers fandom is way more volatile and opinionated than the MLP fandom and always has been.

Ruined Forever!!

[SpacePinto]

I don't think G4 has a rabid fanbase anymore either.  The G4 fanbase that was so active at the height of FIM has largely dispersed.

Well, I know that thankfully this cursed fandom seems to be dying out already, but there are still quite a few of them lingering around, making their fanart and sharing their memes, and I'm pretty sure Hasbro will still try to squeeze as much as possible out of whatever's left while they still can.

[Wardah]

I don't think the retro clip show was meant to be taken as "bashing". One thing I've noticed is a lot of fans of other long running properties where the majority is male wouldn't get upset with similar style humor. Maybe it has something to do with the ways girls are socialised differently.

[Leave a Whisper]

I don't think the retro clip show was meant to be taken as "bashing". One thing I've noticed is a lot of fans of other long running properties where the majority is male wouldn't get upset with similar style humor. Maybe it has something to do with the ways girls are socialised differently.

No, I'd say people of both genders thought it was pretty tasteless of the TCR team to make fun of older iterations and the deceased original va of Panthro.

[Wardah]

I don't think the retro clip show was meant to be taken as "bashing". One thing I've noticed is a lot of fans of other long running properties where the majority is male wouldn't get upset with similar style humor. Maybe it has something to do with the ways girls are socialised differently.

No, I'd say people of both genders thought it was pretty tasteless of the TCR team to make fun of older iterations and the deceased original va of Panthro.

Big difference between "this old cartoon was cheesy like all 80s cartoons were so we will poke a little fun at it but we do it with love" and actual disrespect for a dead person. That's just gross.

[SpacePinto]

I don't think the retro clip show was meant to be taken as "bashing". One thing I've noticed is a lot of fans of other long running properties where the majority is male wouldn't get upset with similar style humor.

They literally put a bushwoolie over Rosedust's privates...

[Leave a Whisper]

I don't think the retro clip show was meant to be taken as "bashing". One thing I've noticed is a lot of fans of other long running properties where the majority is male wouldn't get upset with similar style humor. Maybe it has something to do with the ways girls are socialised differently.

No, I'd say people of both genders thought it was pretty tasteless of the TCR team to make fun of older iterations and the deceased original va of Panthro.

Big difference between "this old cartoon was cheesy like all 80s cartoons were so we will poke a little fun at it but we do it with love" and actual disrespect for a dead person. That's just gross.

It doesn't really matter. Acting like they were censoring a pony's crotch and inferring that Megan was guilty of beastiliaty by dating a baby dragon is  innapropriate, gross and tasteless  and I lost a ton of respect for Hasbro. I'm sure there were some very shocked and angry parents who would have ripped them to shreds in the comment section had they been able.

Few TC fans had respect or at least neutrality towards the awful idiots helming TCR to begin with and that certainly did not help.

My point is, both of them are wrong, wildly innapropriate, completely unproffessional  and people got offended. Period the end.

[Zapper]

I've read fics where all the gens of ponies coexist in the same universe, but live in different geographical locations.  I think that would be a fun take on it.

It's silly to say Hasbro only could / would combine gens of ponies to mock the older generations.  The Transformers IDW comic has characters from almost every generation in their universe, even though it's primarily based on G1 Transformers.  Beast Wars characters, Japanese-only characters, RID 2001 characters, I can even think of a Beast Machines character in there, and god knows that show was not a fan-favorite, lol.

Is this the MLPA version of a subtweet?
You're the silly one if you don't want to consider the fact that Hasbro doesn't treat MLP like TF. Its funny because I compare the two a lot and am of the opinion Hasbro could make way more TF-style stuff with MLP if they only wanted to. Like a Legacy line or even a Masterpiece kind of range for adult collectors.

Also bringing up characters from past gens into new gens isnt a crossover as per the thread's subject. You are talking about something like G4 Applejack, G4 Gusty or G4 Toola Roola. All of which are characters they basically copy-pasted into FiM, albeit with new personalities.
The FiM comic also had G4-style Twinkle Eye ponies in the background of a few panels.

Btw, I'd like to see examples of when Hasbro compared G2, G3 or G3.5 positively to FiM. Oh and "well they existed" doesn't count. I want to see something like the Twilight G1/G4 SDCC doublepack. Maybe then I'll believe that they could do a crossover that doesn't crap all over G2 or G3

*crickets*

[lovesbabysquirmy]

Btw, I'd like to see examples of when Hasbro compared G2, G3 or G3.5 positively to FiM. Oh and "well they existed" doesn't count. I want to see something like the Twilight G1/G4 SDCC doublepack. Maybe then I'll believe that they could do a crossover that doesn't crap all over G2 or G3

*crickets*

Exactly!