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While we're dunking on Hasbro can I just chime in with how upset I am that Hasbro Pulse doesn't sell ponies aside from the one SDCC exclusive? It makes no sense to me and just makes it very obvious that Hasbro only cares about their boy brands at the moment.Looking at the higher-ups I'm not surprise.
Quote from: Zapper on November 05, 2019, 08:56:30 AMAlso, TF never had more story than MLP. It was my impression that the backstory was integral to the TF brand in its inception, since robots transforming to vehicles on its own wouldn't make much sense to western consumers at the time. Meanwhile MLP could exist on its own as a pretty colorful horse you could style and take care of, without any need for a backstory. G1 MLP books and cartoons seemed more like bonus advertising. Most iterations of TF have had its story told in cartoons, comics or movies, while many iterations of MLP have been without it, and maybe not really needing it in order to sell toys.
Also, TF never had more story than MLP.
Quote from: gabumon on November 05, 2019, 07:15:54 AMThe fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worseMTEAlso, TF never had more story than MLP. That's something they added later on in the 80s comics to make the basic premise of "robot faction A is fighting robot faction B over resources" more intresting. They realized they needed to offer more so boys won't outgrow the franchise.I think it's perfectly fine to compare Hasbro lines to eachother because it's all made by the same company. If that company can pour resources into one line it begs the question why another line doesn't get that treatment. Especially when that line is - according to Hasbro's in-house reports - a valuable cashcow pony.It just reminds me so much of Mattel, who downgraded their own Monster High because at a point it cannibalized the Barbie sales. They realized that MH was doing better than the Golden Child so instead of taking advantage of that and building MH up, they decided to cancel the planned movie, decided to reboot the line for pre- and elementary school kids and toss the 14+ demographic to the wolves because "teen girls buy phones and make-up and no dolls".Teen girls these days have embraced geekiness much more than the previous generation. They have more disposable income than ever before. Why not build MLP up as a line that engages older kids, too? I don't need it to be for me. Just think Hasbro is sleeping on its potential in favor of their other franchises.
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust? So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s haha
Quote from: Carrehz on November 04, 2019, 01:32:35 PMQuote from: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 10:45:38 AMI have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going. That's my horse theory. ? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.
Quote from: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 10:45:38 AMI have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going. That's my horse theory. ? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going. That's my horse theory.
Quote from: Galactica on November 05, 2019, 11:03:44 AMSo I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust? So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s hahaNo, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns
Quote from: PinkiePie97 on November 04, 2019, 01:39:26 PMI don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :sThe impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.
Quote from: Zapper on November 05, 2019, 12:48:19 PMQuote from: Galactica on November 05, 2019, 11:03:44 AMSo I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust? So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s hahaNo, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns Caticorns no. Deformed ambiguous quadrupeds with giant eyes and swollen heads? Absolutely.I predict gen 5 will be horrifying monstrosities that are floating, swollen, talking heads with kitty-faced mouths, no bodies and drawn on manes. Oh and they poop. The intro screen will show our heroines lying limp and lifeless in the grass as their heads inflate like balloons until they pop off and ascend into the heavens.(Hasbro if your reading this, DO NOT MAKE THESE!)
hehehehehe yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly, G5 will be a poopsies fakie
Quote from: shabbychicdee on November 05, 2019, 01:53:33 PMhehehehehe yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly, G5 will be a poopsies fakie Ironically G1 is the only generation that made bodily functions a play feature. I don't think Hasbro's ever gone there again, even with the many pony baby dolls they've made over the years?
Quote from: PinkiePie97 on November 04, 2019, 01:39:26 PMQuote from: Carrehz on November 04, 2019, 01:32:35 PMQuote from: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 10:45:38 AMI have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going. That's my horse theory. ? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :sThe impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though
Quote from: Carrehz on November 05, 2019, 01:04:20 PMQuote from: PinkiePie97 on November 04, 2019, 01:39:26 PMQuote from: Carrehz on November 04, 2019, 01:32:35 PMQuote from: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 10:45:38 AMI have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going. That's my horse theory. ? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :sThe impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1