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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #75 on: November 22, 2019, 07:36:56 AM »
So, the one more appropriate video I made is not flagged, but the one which includes a cartoon character going "F=== you Baltimore!" is kid appropriate?  :what:
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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2019, 10:52:27 AM »
Can someone give me a tl;dr rundown on the fine thing, please? I tried watching the videos but all the lawyerspeak is kind of flying over my head ^^; Admittedly I am pretty tired right now, which probably doesn't help.

I can try!

COPPA isn't about making content safe for children.  COPPA is about collecting data on children.  If a website captures any data belonging to a child, it is breaking COPPA law.  Even if the data capture was unintentional.

Youtube captures user data.  They have no way to filter out children.  They paid a fine but instead of fixing things on their end, they made content developers responsible for the children's data they may inadvertently capture.

So if your video has anything on it that may get a child's attention and their data gets captured by Youtube, you're the one who has to pay the fine.

So anime, toys, arts & crafts, cartoons, My Little Pony, Marvel, DC or anything that looks fun could become a target for the FTC fine.  So don't be fun.  It doesn't matter if you curse because that's fun.  It doesn't matter if there is violence or sex, if it looks like fun... you're in trouble.

I think, in the end, this will end up in the courts.  The implementation is just too vague.  But before that, the FTC is going to fine a whole lot of people.

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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2019, 06:28:02 AM »
Everyone should check out this video:
https://youtu.be/pwnvjuCTb54

The FTC acknowledges general audience content and never intended what YouTube is forcing on their creators right now! YouTube has really thrown all their creators under the bus big time just so they could save money! :mad:

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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2019, 07:48:25 AM »
Everyone should check out this video:
https://youtu.be/pwnvjuCTb54

The FTC acknowledges general audience content and never intended what YouTube is forcing on their creators right now! YouTube has really thrown all their creators under the bus big time just so they could save money! :mad:
Hopefully this will get resolved in someway (and hopefully, despite this being a bad thing that they did, I hope that YouTube recovers from this - the site itself still means a lot to me.)

There has been more hope and positivity in the whole thing in places, so hopefully a compromise is at least reached (like a general audience option - it's good that the FTC know it exists.)

Also, some (if not all) of the "what counts as just for kids" is dated, so hopefully this will be acknowledged, which it probably will be if they know about general audiences.  Sorry if any of this was mentioned in the video, I haven't watched it yet.
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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #79 on: November 26, 2019, 09:07:31 AM »
Everyone should check out this video:
https://youtu.be/pwnvjuCTb54

The FTC acknowledges general audience content and never intended what YouTube is forcing on their creators right now! YouTube has really thrown all their creators under the bus big time just so they could save money! :mad:

That's typical of youtube, tho.

It's time to realize that youtube does not give a crap what kind of content is created as long as it's profitable to them.
Abiding by certain rules always gets flipped onto the content creators so they make a big stink. But instead of going against youtube they go against what caused youtube to lash out. They have to protect youtube as it is their source of income/fame.

If big name creators would leave youtube and make their own platform, THAT would force youtube to be more userfriendly. But the dummies won't as it is easier to lick youtube's boots than to try and be their competition.

In Germany we've had youtube creators and consumers in a state of mass panic because of an article that was part of a new European plan to protect copyrights.
There was/is so much false information regarding this new law and its articles that people went into the streets to mass protest.
All because youtube was like "well, we won't be made responsible if our content creazors break the law. We profit off of that but who cares? Better fight the copyright law or else we'll just delete your accs, lol!" and instead of fighting youtube all these dummies started fighting the lawmakers. Even went so far as to threaten death to one politician's children and spreafing all sorts of lies that Germany was gonna become a dictatorship again and that the law was a way to prevent free speech (btw, another article in that new law states that criticism and free speech must be protected but of course that's the parts nobody read).
And all just because youtube = $€¥£

Stand up against your employer or go to another outlet. Youtube is a huge corporation, they do not deserve being defended. Without their content creators they wouldn't make money. So stop creating content for them. Don't give them your human resorces. Demonetize COPPA info videos because youtube is making money from that, too. They always let their own content creators work for them and figure things out and share information because the more monetized vids you make the more money flows into the youtube pocket.

Capitalism is a sham :P
Expecting socialist behaviour from a greedy company is naive.

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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2019, 09:40:27 AM »
Everyone should check out this video:
https://youtu.be/pwnvjuCTb54

The FTC acknowledges general audience content and never intended what YouTube is forcing on their creators right now! YouTube has really thrown all their creators under the bus big time just so they could save money! :mad:
So basically, it could all be resolved if you had to login to get your information collected and stored.  Kind of like MLParena does.

Of course, everyone (including creators) would make more money if we had to login to see the videos as well.  But that would destroy all the video sharing we do by copy/pasting links and people might stop using Youtube because of it and cost both YouTube and creators money.

I can see why the law is putting everyone in a tight spot. 

This latest video is bizarre?  He got contacted by a stranger who says he knows the truth and is close to powerful people and this lawyer just... believed him?
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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2019, 10:30:04 AM »
I just found this article the FTC has released that can be very helpful to YouTube channel owners:
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2019/11/youtube-channel-owners-your-content-directed-children?utm_source=govdelivery

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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2019, 12:10:49 PM »
The article and video are very helpful!
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Re: New Youtube Rules for Kids' Content
« Reply #83 on: November 27, 2019, 09:27:03 AM »
Even though they do seem to be more understanding, it seems to me that FTC is still basically saying "you won't know if you've broken the law until we say so".  The law itself is just too vague. 
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