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"Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« on: April 20, 2019, 04:31:40 PM »
:party: :cheer: 200 Episodes!  :cheer: :party:

Woo! Cannot believe FIM has made it this far. I can't wait to see this one, as it's aparently a mash up of things the voice actors always wanted to do on the show. Pretty interesting idea! I personally really loved the 100th episode celebration, so I'm down for more fun.

Official Synopsis:
"Twilight and Shining Armor Pit their wits against each other to settle a long-standing sibling rivalry, but they soon discover they are not the only competitors."

Episode Summary:
The episode opens with Spike interrupting Twilight & Starlight's paperwork with an exciting letter! It's an invitation from Shining Armor for a sibling rivalry competition. Through flashbacks, we see the more competitive side of Twilight and Shining Armor growing up, and how they would try and outdo each other in all kinds of fun events. Shining Armor has decided it's time to crown the winner for the last time!

Twilight and Spike rush to meet Shining Armor at Celestia & Luna's castle, where Shining Armor is wearing the crown (having been the last winner before the two grew up and moved out). Turns out, Celestia and Luna have decided they need better defense since Sombra's return and attack. They've brought Shining Armor back to build a new defense system, and Twilight is to be the guinea pig, tasked with breaking into the castle and stealing the Supreme Sibling crown. If she wins, she gets to be the Supreme Sibling Foreverrrr. Shining Armor explains that he has used pieces of Crystalis' throne and some of Starswirls magic to prevent any use of spells in the tower. It also cannot be flown to or reached from underground, and guards are placed in every hall. If the throne room is reached, they will have to avoid the Geese blowing their cover. Twilight returns to her own castle and lets the rest of the Mane 6 know what's going on and begin to plan their strategy. Except... Shining Armor knows exactly how Twilight works and spoils her plans. So instead, Rarity decides to plan!

We cut to a film noir style scene of Rarity and Rainbow Dash interrogating a bar tender to find an entrance. Pinkie thinks they should... go to space? Applejack decides to bring out her country star alter ego, Applecore, to distract the guards with a concert. Fluttershy and Spike plan to become super secret special agents. And Twilight? Well, she can't be involved at all!

No it's time to test these wild ideas. The guards are posed and ready, and here come Appleja- uh, Applecore, with her stage. Pinkie, Spike, and Fluttershy are in the hot air balloon with Rainbow Dash right behind. After Shining Armor and Twilight have a suspicious engagement, the hot air balloon come crashing down, with only Pinkie in it. It distracted the guards enough for applejack to steal a gem from one of the guard uniforms using a plunger device. Pinkie Pie didn't make it to space, sad. Rarity and Rainbow Dash head to the club, only to find it closed! Now who do they interrogate?? Oh, well, the gentlecolt outside will do. He points them to a sealed off and guarded secret entrance. And what's this? Guard change time! Now.... Zephyr Breeze is guarding. Rarity send out a dolled up Rainbow Dash to distract him so she can tear down the bricks. Once Rarity is finished she signals for Rainbow Dash to hurry and join her, and Dash easily gets away while Zephyr is boasting his ego up higher. Spike and Fluttershy are outside the thrown room, and Spike cuts a hole in the stained glass so they can get in. Unfortunately they still set off the guard Geese, but fall through a trap door so they aren't seen. Luna thinks it a false alarm and goes to alert Celestia about it. Twilight begins to worry that things aren't going well.

Fluttershy and Spike are stuck in the little dungeon below the throne room and lament to each other. Fluttershy explains her claustrophobia and Spike reveals that he loved being a part of Twilight & Shining Armor's competitions but he was never seen as a little brother to them like he wanted. Fluttershy reminds him that sibling dynamics are complicated, but Spike still matters to them. Suddenly, a door opens, and Rarity and Rainbow Dash are revealed inside the secret tunnels. Turns out Rainbow Dash likes pulling on levers. The four group up and decide they need to reevaluate their plans. The Mane 6 all reconven and Spike decides that Twilight should make the plan in the end. Twilight thanks him, and Spike tries to pull the "little brother" card, only to be ignored completely by Twilight, ouch.

This time, a giant party is used to distract the guards. While Rarity, now in a guard outfit, is able to get into the castle using the magic gems on the uniform. Rainbow Dash, able to outmaneuver the turbines, carries Fluttershy with her as they traverse the other areas. Zephy seems to already have lost his new job after the hole was discovered. Twilight brings Applejack to some boulders to buck through instead (with the help of Maud to give exact placement of the blows) and return underground. Inside the castle, Rarity lets another guard know it's shift change time, allowing her to take the spot outside the throne room. She opens a window so Dash and Fluttershy can make it inside. The three enter the hallway to the throne room and the geese are immediately set off, but Fluttershy calms them with the promise of a massage. Applejack, Twilight, and Spike are underground with a map, and open a secret wall to into the throne room where the whole group meets up again (including pinkie... somehow). Twilight is ready to get her crown, only for Shining Armor and the princesses to come out of hiding and inform her she has lost. But what's this? That's not the real crown! Spike had the real crown all this time, having used Luna's annoyance at the start of the episode to his advantage, so she would distract her sister and Shining Armor and side with Twilight.

Twilight and Shining Armor decide that the crown should go to Spike, their little brother.

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Updated! Finally watched it hahaha. I went in blind so I had no idea what to expect. It didn't really feel like a special episode like the 100th episode did, so that caught me off guard. I loved the tension between Celestia and Luna (holding out for one last episode about them this season... pleaseeeee?). I didn't even expect the twist at the end. It was nice of them to finally acknowledge Spike and the little brother issue. Not too bad, but not really what I was hoping for!
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 04:33:39 PM »
I was baking a cake and missed out on the streams. I know how this one ends from an interview that was uploaded, but I guess it'll be fun seeing everyone run around to get to that point.
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 05:29:08 PM »
I set my DVR to record this but for some reason it didn't. :sad: I'll have to try to catch a rebroadcast of this episode.


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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 06:15:39 PM »
Updated with the summary  :)
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 07:47:19 PM »
It's on Dailymotion now.
I really liked this episode! I think this is the most entertaining one so far this season.
It's hard for me to take Spike seriously most times but I think this was a sweet episode for him. I am a bit confused because I thought last season Twilight and Spike had a mother-son dynamic with the "I have real parents now" bit. Oh well, not that big of a deal ??
Fluttershy letting Spike know that it was hard being Zephyr's big sister? Too bad their family dynamic won't be brought up again likely. Sweet bonding moment. Also reference to season 4, love that continuity.
Rarity killed it this episode. She was so fun to watch. I also thought Zephyr was amusing even though he is usually a bit grating.
That Luna bit was great, too. I thought they learned to talk to each other? Whatever.
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 08:29:02 PM »
Well...it didn’t have the students, at least!  Other than that, was there actually a point to this episode?  It was an absolute mess. 

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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 11:37:39 PM »
Just a few things:
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2019, 12:20:08 AM »
Luna was hilarious, even if the disagreements were so forced. Like, she's never been treated as an equal sister; even with TWO thrones now, Celestia's throne is noticably taller! I loved the shot of her with the goose and the false alarm line. These two seem even more out of character than the 'we're retiring' plot, I'm really wondering if it's truely them. I'd like a one-last-episode for them, just one that really has Luna appreciated and not via a problem she made or both of them being wrong.
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2019, 01:06:36 AM »
I can't help but smirk that the Mane 6 are so one note that they're painfully predictable even in universe.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2019, 01:27:45 AM »
I can't help but smirk that the Mane 6 are so one note that they're painfully predictable even in universe.
Says a lot when Discord mentioned it in the holiday special. It's literally a gag that they're predictable now.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2019, 03:33:29 AM »
Just realised ... not only did this make me think of the Geller Cup in Friends, but Twilight's parents had them compete for a crown? And Former Captain of the Royal Guard and married to/brother of/father of an alicorn princess can enlist the diarchs of the land to aid a bet with his sister? While using the ruined throne of a Queen and with the aid of a mythical-level sorcerer? (Sure, the latter was more overall security but he made it part of the bet)

... Night Light and Twilight Velvet literally bred these two to become royalty. The privilage is reaching nuclear levels!
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2019, 02:31:29 PM »
This was a surprisingly low-key episode.
Yeah, it was still goofy and ridiculous throughout, but nothing compared to the insanity that was Slice of Life. And I think it's for the better. You can only get away with something like that once.
I still did have fun with it though. And I think our lead voice cast do deserve some love for working with this show for almost a decade now.

Oh, and for those who are curious, "Big" Jim Miller posted a thread detailing who came up with what.
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2019, 05:46:16 PM »
Is the title a reference to Blake's Seven?

Also did anyone else notice the "The Little Prince" visual gag in Pinkie Pie's space dream sequence?  She flies by a small planet with baobab trees on it.  :P

Very fun episode!
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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2019, 02:57:40 AM »
I think it’s more “Ocean’s Eleven” because of the heist thing.  So, I watched the episode again because I couldn’t figure out what in the world this episode was supposed to be, and I still can’t figure it out.  Boy they are really grasping at straws for filler, aren’t they?  Usually I save my disdain for the student-centered episodes, but this one was just as bad the second time around as the first.

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Re: "Twilight's Seven" Friendship Is Magic S9 Ep4 Discussion
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2019, 09:21:15 PM »
It was better than the 100th episode, that's for sure :cool:
But I hope the villains return soon. They could have used Chrysalis throne to protect baby Flurry... but... it was just kept in a treasure chest. Celestia might be going senile and that's why Twilight has to take over  :lol: