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Offline Marlin

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Peroxide cream on ponies?
« on: January 26, 2019, 12:36:44 AM »
I am seeing increasing mention and usage of peroxide cream being used on G1s and playsets to brighten up the vinyl and yellowed plastic.

Whilst I can't deny the before and after images people are posting are impressive, I can't help but wonder if there are long term effects that we should be aware of??  :huh: 

I am no scientist, so I don't really know what chemical magic is going on here. Is it truly safe to use, or have people had long term side affects? I mainly ask because I would hate to buy a pony which hasn't had this treatment disclosed (like acne cream) and have it start to deteriorate down the line. On the flipside, it looks like an attractive option for restoring ponies which I could be tempted by - only I am very, very wary of any chemical treatments used on ponies  :|

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2019, 01:25:40 AM »
For ponies : BIG NOPE!!! Maybe on white ponies its ok but on all other ponies : noooo! It will "suck out" the color and leave stains bigger than the area you used the stuff on!

I tried it on my Lullabye Nursery, the effect was mixed I think. I was ok for the roof; it took the yellowing but kinda made the pink a little less vibrant too. I think it takes a lot of patience to use that stuff... I used it for the walls (outside) and the door too but it left "smears", so you need to rinse and repeat a lot to get a nice result.
I think the main problem for using it on the Lullabye Nursery (in my case) is : sun + stickers! You need to put it in the sunlight to make it work. I didnt find a proper way to save the outside stickers without damaging them or exposing them to the sun :( Maybe for the Show Stable it will work just fine!

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 03:37:03 AM »
Does peroxide cream have the same effect as acne cream ? I would have thought it's two different chemicals. '-'
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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 05:06:44 AM »
Given that we don't really know the long term effects of aging and other things on the plastic and we are learning about those things all the time (plasticiser breakdown, etc), it seems reckless to the extreme to use potent chemicals in any regard.

I would be really concerned if a pony I bought had been exposed to any of these things, honestly.

The thing is, acne cream took a long time to be outed as bad for ponies. People were using it extensively with no negative effects. It's only down the line that the real permanent damage it did to these ponies is really apparent. And as the plastic becomes older, we have to face the fact that it's probably more susceptable to damage that maybe it would've withstood ages ago.

I am wary about sunfading for the same reason, since heat and sunlight and such do have an impact on the plastic and breakdown. I would think that even if it's not immediately obvious in damaging a pony, a chemical like peroxide is probably doing damage of some kind for which the full effects may not become apparent until further down the line.

I am no expert on chemicals but I think adding them to unstable plastics of 30ish years old is a bad idea...
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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2019, 05:12:20 AM »
Well one of the most common ingredients in acne cream is benzoyl peroxide so...? I'm not sure of them reactive differences between benzoyl and hydrogen peroxides but both have a bleaching effect.

Yes I have often thought about that, in a couple years will we find all the ponies soaked in peroxide and the playsets coated in developing cream end up like acne cream victims? Will they end up bleaching ponies touching them eventually? Will they breakdown quicker?

I only have one pony that had a peroxide soak, but she is customized so I will not be sad if the above happens (besides contact bleaching) so I guess I can see what will happen. As for ponies that need such a treatment I just sell them off and let someone else make that decision.

As Taffeta above, I also don't sunfade  ponies. I see lots of yellowed and damaged ponies from the sun so it seems like eventually exposing them more will have more effects later.

On that Nat Geo article about scientists trying to figure out preserving plastics it was said that even just putting aging plastic in water /washing it causes a chain reaction causing more breakdown
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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2019, 08:17:26 AM »
This is what bleaching cream does after a long time! I applied the stuff around 2006 I think (maybe wrong, but its been longer than 10 years ago).

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2019, 09:57:04 AM »
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Does peroxide cream have the same effect as acne cream ? I would have thought it's two different chemicals. '-'
SAME chemicals -  acne cream is Benzoyl peroxide !!!!!
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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2019, 10:52:56 AM »
Even if it is safe for playsets, my concern would be displaying ponies in them. It would probably transfer like acne cream :huh:
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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2019, 11:31:02 AM »
Even if it is safe for playsets, my concern would be displaying ponies in them. It would probably transfer like acne cream :huh:

Agreed. If a pony touches a playset that cream was used on, it would likely just transfer to the pony just like when cream treated ponies touch other ponies.
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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2019, 11:39:45 AM »
This is what bleaching cream does after a long time! I applied the stuff around 2006 I think (maybe wrong, but its been longer than 10 years ago).

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Yes, they have been cleaned after the procedure... it still happened.

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2019, 12:54:25 PM »
Right. Well, I'm happy with that!! NO peroxide cream use for me!!

I would never, ever, have used acne cream, but my gut feeling was that this new 'hydrogen' cream wasn't a good idea either. Again I'm no scientist so I don't know the specific differences between benzoyl and hydrogen peroxide, but to be honest, I don't think the use of any bleaching treatment is a good idea (on ponies).

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2019, 03:28:53 PM »
I kinda wonder if it could make the plastic more brittle in the long run,

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2019, 03:54:27 PM »
This is what bleaching cream does after a long time! I applied the stuff around 2006 I think (maybe wrong, but its been longer than 10 years ago).

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 12:07:05 AM »
Thank you for bringing this topic up! It IS relevant at the moment with many people reporting sometimes really impressive results. I am wary of using chemicals on ponies though so I haven't personally tried it. It is so very helpful to have feedback from people who have; thank you Einhornbaby for posting your photographs as many times this can say way more than mere words.

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Re: Peroxide cream on ponies?
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 05:37:56 AM »
At your service :P
Whenever I see a topic like this I show my poor Nightlights behind :/ I hope people will one day stop using the stuff!!

 

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