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I feel like I remember someone from Hasbro (or maybe someone involved with FiM?) using the term "G4"/"G5" a while ago? maybe in the leaked G5 stuff? but I don't recall them ever referring to the other gens by name. Officially they've always just been "My Little Pony".
I've never understood the whole G3.5 thing....Why .5? Because they have big heads? Why weren't they just G4? Because they had some of the same characters? Heck, G4 still has Applejack, so does that make them technically G1.4? G3 reused characters too, so it's obvious that doesn't influence the naming. I legit don't understand. It just makes no sense no matter how I look at it.
IIRC there was a debate at the time if it should be "G3.5" or "G4" and it was only -really- settled when G4 came around? but yeah, basically what LadyM said. Different style but too similar to G3 to properly be seen as an entirely seperate generaton.I feel like I remember someone from Hasbro (or maybe someone involved with FiM?) using the term "G4"/"G5" a while ago? maybe in the leaked G5 stuff? but I don't recall them ever referring to the other gens by name. Officially they've always just been "My Little Pony".
Found it! visitors can't see pics , please register or loginThis site compiled everything from the leaks all together. If you want to avoid spoilers on anything the original post has things hidden. Ctrl+F and go down to "Презентация 5-го поколения" for the full slideshow.They use the term "G5" in another graphic as well, so they are using the "generation" terminology.... but this is also supposed to be internal information. That we weren't meant to see. So maybe that muddies your definition of "officially".
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on January 24, 2019, 02:35:49 PMNo, Hasbro has never used G3, G3.5, or any of the Gx names for MLP, they are only used by fans. The G1 / G2 etc terms were cribbed from the Transformers fandom. In the early 90s Hasbro had a line of toys labeled "Transformers: Generation 2". The idea being to convince Radical 90s Kids that these Transformers were somehow better than previous Transformers, because they were new. (Even though all the Generation 2 Transformers were literally the same TF molds as before, just with gaudier colors and cheaper plastic.)Anyway, since Hasbro called those toys "Generation 2", Transformers fans then retroactively called the earlier Transformers "Generation 1". So anyway, in 1997 Hasbro made a new generation of ponies. Pony collectors called them "the new ponies" or "the '97 ponies" (because they were first sold in 1997) while G1 ponies were called "the old ponies" or "80s ponies."Then in 2003 a new set of ponies came along. Everyone debated what to call them because if G2 ponies were "the new ponies" then what were these new ponies . . . "the new-new ponies"? Confusing! So pony fans started using G1 / G2 / G3. That was interesting, thanks!I wonder, was G2 ever presented at the NY Toy Fair? Or did it just pop up in stores, out of the blue? I would be fun to see some of Hasbro's promo works announcing G2, if it exists. I know of the four petite pony versions of G2 characters, but other than that, I don't remember anything about the launch of the second gen.
No, Hasbro has never used G3, G3.5, or any of the Gx names for MLP, they are only used by fans. The G1 / G2 etc terms were cribbed from the Transformers fandom. In the early 90s Hasbro had a line of toys labeled "Transformers: Generation 2". The idea being to convince Radical 90s Kids that these Transformers were somehow better than previous Transformers, because they were new. (Even though all the Generation 2 Transformers were literally the same TF molds as before, just with gaudier colors and cheaper plastic.)Anyway, since Hasbro called those toys "Generation 2", Transformers fans then retroactively called the earlier Transformers "Generation 1". So anyway, in 1997 Hasbro made a new generation of ponies. Pony collectors called them "the new ponies" or "the '97 ponies" (because they were first sold in 1997) while G1 ponies were called "the old ponies" or "80s ponies."Then in 2003 a new set of ponies came along. Everyone debated what to call them because if G2 ponies were "the new ponies" then what were these new ponies . . . "the new-new ponies"? Confusing! So pony fans started using G1 / G2 / G3.
Personally I think it only counts as a new generation... if it completely and totally replaces the previous gen. Saying EQG should be G4.5 is silly since they were a companion to the main G4 line; it'd be like saying G3 Ponyvilles should be considered their own gen, or G1 Sweetheart Sisters should be G1.5, etc etc. At least in my opinion, heh.
Okay, I must eat my words because it turns out Hasbro DID use the term "Generation 3" on something official at least once, in this timeline:https://mylittlepony.hasbro.com/en-us/parents^ Go to the page, search (or scroll down) for "History", and click "Explore the Timeline" to see the timeline. They don't refer to G1, G2, G3.5 (which isn't on the timeline at all), or G4, but it does say: "2003 - Relaunch of brand with Generation 3 Ponies"Edit: Oh, that leaked graphic is really interesting!
Quote from: Carrehz on January 25, 2019, 09:55:53 AMPersonally I think it only counts as a new generation... if it completely and totally replaces the previous gen. Saying EQG should be G4.5 is silly since they were a companion to the main G4 line; it'd be like saying G3 Ponyvilles should be considered their own gen, or G1 Sweetheart Sisters should be G1.5, etc etc. At least in my opinion, heh.I agree with this. The thing is that EQG has to be considered part of G4 because it begins in Equestria with Twilight Sparkle in the G4 realm, and goes back to that theme even as recently as the rebooted episodes with Sunset Shimmer going back through the mirror. Since the core of G4 is not the toy style/line but the animation, then the world is essentially the same one and thus they're the same. It would be exactly as Carrehz said, just segregating them on species is a bit strange. We don't call Cutesaurus etc G1.5 because they're not pony but part of the pony line. And timeline wise EQG fit in with G4, just as the pony friends do, and Megan, and Molly, and ultimately different shapes like SHS, but also mermaids, sea ponies, and so on.A new generation is a whole new world to me as well. There can be some overlap names or characters but the key for me is that it's mostly new - different toys, characters, designs, world, concept, and also logos and artwork styles. All those things make a new generation.The leaked material wasn't leaked from Hasbro I don't believe, it was a secondary company involved in the animation, or am I wrong about that? So that table is not Hasbro but a linked organisation.Hasbro referring now to older G terms on their website is interesting but I think it's still a post-G4 symptom, in that they now care about what their adult audiences think more than they did when they marketed those old lines. It's all part of building the brand now in a different way from how it was before. Although there have been closer links in the US with the community and Hasbro through the old Pony Fair so who knows. As for the old idea of gaps between generations, such things are determined and always have been on the dates and systems used in the US because MLP is a US toy originally. Annoying as that can be to work with, at the time it was put forward it made some form of sense. There were 5 years between G1 and G2 in the US and then a similar gap of time between G2 and G3 I think? It only started getting messy when Ponyville stuff happened.I'm keeping in reserve the G4.5 label, honestly, because for me if the reboot (if there is one) is recycling G4, it's 4.5 and not 5. Even if Hasbro were to sell it as G5, I won't recognise it as Generation 5 unless it meets the criteria Carrehz mentioned. And I think that's also the issue that existed with 3.5. It wasn't new enough to be a new generation, but it was different enough not to be the previous one. All the leaked material so far suggests this future "g5" fits that precedent.
Loreofyore - Honestly I'm kinda confused by most of your post (I thought my/Taff's posts was pretty straightforward) but Megan did get a cameo in one of the recent EQG things (dunno which):visitors can't see pics , please register or login(screenshot borrowed from this thread)