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I've been thinking a bit about Gabriel's relationship with Nooroo and that whole aspect as well. SpoilerWe don't see him fuel Nooroo, although he must I guess at some point...unless this is a trait of the specific Ladybug and CN miraculouses because they seem to be special and thus their power must be limited in the hands of humans. We haven't I don't think seen any of the others need/be fuelled in that way.So Gabriel and Nooroo. To begin with it really seems like Nooroo is bullied and Fu and the others seem to think that Nooroo is forced into the partnership, but there are odd moments where I don't think that's the case. He is controlled, like Adrien, in a sense - but I also feel like Nooroo feels its his duty to watch over Gabriel as well. There's that moment in the Collector where he temporarily renounces Nooroo and Nooroo seems quite surprised. Then when he brings Nooroo out again, Gabriel asks, "did you miss me?" and Nooroo is all, "At your service, master." It doesn't seem quite the bullying relationship that you might expect. I also think the white butterflies are important, and maybe the core of the real power. I really feel like the Papillon is meant to resolve problems and this is being hijacked - because ultimately the problems do get resolved. I feel like Nooroo's core power is to help people find the strength/power to resolve their own problems. And maybe Nooroo is sticking with Gabriel because as yet he hasn't helped Gabriel fix HIS problem. Nooroo seems sympathetic to Gabriel - but it may also connect to the peacock and some knowledge of that. I think there's that one episode where it's Nooroo's birthday and he seems like he might slip out but then he doesn't and Gabriel doesn't let him which suggests control -but I wonder how much Nooroo could fight back if he really wanted to. He does sometimes question Gabriel's actions - but he still participates in them. I dunno. That bond really interests me. I would rather know more about Nooroo than see cameo appearances from Rena Rouge, Queen Bee and whatever it is Nino calls himself, can't remember. I get that's the kid show hero bit of it - but I still feel like its a bit low-key, they have to give the miraculouses back, and they all know some part of each other's secrets re their identities and Marinette basically just gives them to her friends anyway. So that's less interesting to me than figuring out how Nooroo ended up with Gabriel and why.We don't know why the two miraculous disappeared the day Master Fu made a mistake. We don't know if they disappeared in a disaster or if they were stolen or what happened. We don't know what destroyed the place, either. We don't know any of these things. Also we don't know if Master Fu used a miraculous he shouldn't have done in this process...lots of questions here that need answering.
Speculating in spoiler.SpoilerOne thought that I keep having is that Gabriel or Emilie was gifted the butterfly or peafowl miraculous, and then the other went to steal it. If two were stolen that day, then that seems to me as if Emilie was still alive at that point. If there was a general timeline given, I don't remember it? So this could have been before Adrien's birth? But then why wouldn't Fu have given the Ladybug/Cat miraculi out sooner? Unless he was waiting for news of the miraculous to be used to keep them a secret...But then why would the miraculous have been gifted in the first place? Doesn't make a lot of sense but it keeps nagging at me because of the Peafowl being dangerous, which would have killed the miraculous user/put her in comatose state.Because butterflies are part of the Agreste brand, at least somewhat subtle-y, if we are to assume that they have BEEN in the mansion and such then he has had the miraculous for a while, before he became hawk moth.Also lol, hawk/peacock moth/butterfly. I see...
Season 3Spoiler I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir Ponyfan
Quote from: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 04:55:51 AMSeason 3Spoiler I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir PonyfanI do hope so...
Quote from: Taffeta on January 24, 2019, 05:25:02 AMQuote from: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 04:55:51 AMSeason 3Spoiler I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir PonyfanI do hope so...SpoilerI do too. I think it might be really interesting if it does happen.
Quote from: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 03:29:14 PMQuote from: Taffeta on January 24, 2019, 05:25:02 AMQuote from: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 04:55:51 AMSeason 3Spoiler I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir PonyfanI do hope so...SpoilerI do too. I think it might be really interesting if it does happen. It would seem to me to be a perfect opportunity Spoilerfor an identity reveal.I have thought about this for a while, whether I want them to find out about each other at the same time or one first then the other. I think one at a time would be more interesting, but the big question is who should know first...I actually also want to see Ladybug akumatised. But I know this is a plot issue with the fact she's the only one that can get rid of the akuma. Unless there's another way that could be worked in, because I find it really difficult to buy the fact that Spoiler Marinette is not enough in control of her feelings to stop from spouting off at Lila or Chloe but is in enough control to ward off an akuma when it's right there in front of her...
Rewatching Season 1 has made me think about a few things. If Tiki is over 5,000 years old and Nooroo is only 3,500 years old it makes me wonder if the Miraculous were initially created when there was a problem that only someone using the Miraculous could solve. Watching Adrien almost give himself away to Gabriel in "Simon Says" when Cat Noir knows exactly how to engage the defense system of the Agreste mansion was pretty funny. Ponyfan