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Quote from: FiddlePhan on November 19, 2018, 06:40:02 PMG1 when I was growing up I never had any major flaws show up within a year or two. That's out of hundreds of ponies. Eh. Some ponies had regrind early on, Maybe not within 1-2 years... but I can remember it from 3-4 years. (It could of been earlier then that, since it was a friend's pony and not mine). Come to think of it, I remember discoloration on one of the Big Brothers too when I met her (I dunno if it was Chief or Trucker). And flutters had an obvious flaw. And any kid who left a saddle on their pony too long would have stains from the saddle. So. That's similar to the bows discoloring ponies.
G1 when I was growing up I never had any major flaws show up within a year or two. That's out of hundreds of ponies.
Hair Product?
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on November 22, 2018, 09:40:10 AMHair Product? In the package, there's something in the manes of the ponies, to keep the forelock together or whatever, I don't relaly know why. It combs out or it seems to, but I just wondered whether if the conditions were right it might have an adverse effect, given that the marks are around the head.
Quote from: Taffeta on November 22, 2018, 09:41:50 AMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on November 22, 2018, 09:40:10 AMHair Product? In the package, there's something in the manes of the ponies, to keep the forelock together or whatever, I don't relaly know why. It combs out or it seems to, but I just wondered whether if the conditions were right it might have an adverse effect, given that the marks are around the head.Hmm. I didn't notice that with her CPs? Interesting.
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on November 22, 2018, 09:43:42 AMQuote from: Taffeta on November 22, 2018, 09:41:50 AMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on November 22, 2018, 09:40:10 AMHair Product? In the package, there's something in the manes of the ponies, to keep the forelock together or whatever, I don't relaly know why. It combs out or it seems to, but I just wondered whether if the conditions were right it might have an adverse effect, given that the marks are around the head.Hmm. I didn't notice that with her CPs? Interesting.Maybe it's just the ones with the turning head. The Snuzzle you sent me is from the earliest release I think and her head doesn't turn, she also I don't think has stuff in her hair. But the Rainbows we have definitely had something, and Butterscotch and Minty have turning heads...I can see it just still on Butterscotch though they've been well combed. In fact, maybe there's some relation with that and the rainbow discolouration, if there's something in the product reacting with the plastic and the scent while the ponies are in package. I don't know yet, it's too early to say really - but there is a theory that it affects boxed ponies worse than ones out of box...
I'm not saying that the discolouration isn't an issue, it obviously is. But it doesn't affect all batches of the ponies as present.As for the prices, I'm in Europe too, so I also have to pay more for them than the US pricing. I used the US pricing deliberately because it's a US product. We pay extra because of all the import export stuff going on. That doesn't change the fact that it is a $10 item as far as the toy producers are concerned. I can understand the frustration of a higher price and flawed ponies, I am absolutely not condoning that - but I don't want it to be the case that problems in the minority of products ultimately end up bringing down the whole of the line. (I think Rainbows here are about equivalent $18, and Collectors $14).I want to see retro products and this is better than what Hasbro managed 10 years ago. It's not perfect. I'm not a perfectionist. It's not a collector item, it's a toy that's sort of aimed to snare us as well. I feel like if Mattel can get away with goophaired MH dolls for most of the franchise with a higher price point, there's not a lot to be done about this except deal with it and move on. I want wave 3 to come to Europe. For that to happen wave 2 has to sell in Europe. For me this is the bigger picture. It's fine if you happen to live in a country where the wave 3 characters were sold but there are a lot of people in the UK who never had that opportunity 30 years ago, and don't now without importation hassles and currency issues. To get that set onto shelves here for me is enough. I can deal with it if the symbols are a bit squint or the hair a bit crinky or the hooves squashed at the base a little or whatever the problem might be. I just want them to come out here. And I absolutely get the frustrations everyone has. But for me this is a "bigger picture" problem. Yes, the issues should not be there, in a perfect world. BUT the choice is retro ponies with a percentage that have flaws or no retro ponies. And I like seeing them on the shelf.I think that the percentage of CP with flaws is also extremely minimal. At least I've seen them in three different store chains here now and I've yet to see any with problems. (Though I've also seen plenty of Rainbows as well and have only seen three, total, with any problems - only one of which was severe).Time will tell, of course, how well they hold up. But I really feel frustrated that we've been given this unexpected bonus in getting G1 back in stores and yet it's all negative and complaining. To be blunt, the QC on the retros is better than it's been for most G4 products for the past x number of years...Incidentally, have the CP ponies made it to Europe?
I'm sorry, but no amount of complaining is going to make these problems cease to exist. Discoloration is/has happened. Collectors are aware. The end.Honestly, I'd think collectors of the old gen would be thankful for these things being released at all, and thankful they have expendable funds to potentially buy these. It's just frustrating at this point watching adults argue over toys that they don't have to buy and are privileged enough to have access to them. Especially considering what day it is./end rant
I can see both sides. Flaws will happen even with new toys but if Basic Fun/stores see a lot of ponies being returned then any future waves (if there are any) might be cancelled. Ponyfan