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I dont think anyone here would do it for profit or cheat others, but even having them available for free for others to use, we never know where they will end up in a few years. We may have the best of intentions today, but we cannot say what will happen in the future. Even if noone is actually scamming anyone, they can be passed on as real because lack of knowledge.
well yeah, of course if someone's determined to scam then they'll probably also be determined enough to remove the marks identifying them as a repro - but it doesn't hurt to try and prevent that, surely? :p 'Sides, I doubt anyone would actually try it on. I think probably there's more risk of people innocently mistaking them for the real deal.Also to clarify, I was only suggesting a "repro" mark should be put on any reproductions that are available online, not on ones made for personal use X3 If that makes sense. Obviously y'all can do whatever you want for your own collections.
I'm not talking about 50 years down the road, but maybe 4-5 years. I dont even think ponycollecting will be a big thing in 50 years, so you probably dont need to worry ablut that.
Yes that it is easy for those who WANT to scam, to make repros that looks original, that doesnt mean we should make repros that looks exactly like the original, but try to prevent that it happens by mistake. I'm sorry, but to me it just sound a little lazy to just say "meh, its already easy for people to scam if they want to, so I dont care if people will be scamming others with my repros".
I mean, its not a big deal to mark the repros with "repro" or a watermark, then you have done what you can, and wont have to worry any more.
And yes, there is always people that will be trying to pass on things as legit, but why make it easier for them? If the word repro is added somewhere on the product, it would probably rise questions even by the newest of collectors.
Everyone's free to do what they want, of course, but I'm not making something purposely uglier or that detracts from my own enjoyment. In 50 years, there'll probably be machines that are 'press a button, instant pony'. So all this kafuffle seems pointless but amusing.
Quote from: Baby Sugarberry on August 14, 2018, 11:06:47 AMI'd expect these would be for individual collectors, not for sale anyways. Anything I make would be freely available for anyone who wanted to use it for personal, non-commercial use. Selling stuff just potentially opens you up to all sorts of unwelcome legal attention.It's all free till somebody starts shipping/mailing something OR changes stuff....but I want the super ultra glow in the dark glitter gloss paper; I thought you said it was free. waaa!LOL!
I'd expect these would be for individual collectors, not for sale anyways. Anything I make would be freely available for anyone who wanted to use it for personal, non-commercial use. Selling stuff just potentially opens you up to all sorts of unwelcome legal attention.
Quote from: KarentheUnicorn on August 14, 2018, 01:25:53 PMQuote from: Baby Sugarberry on August 14, 2018, 11:06:47 AMI'd expect these would be for individual collectors, not for sale anyways. Anything I make would be freely available for anyone who wanted to use it for personal, non-commercial use. Selling stuff just potentially opens you up to all sorts of unwelcome legal attention.It's all free till somebody starts shipping/mailing something OR changes stuff....but I want the super ultra glow in the dark glitter gloss paper; I thought you said it was free. waaa!LOL! Is that so you can brainwash us for your own evil schemes?
Quote from: Leikin on August 16, 2018, 04:11:46 AMI'm not talking about 50 years down the road, but maybe 4-5 years. I dont even think ponycollecting will be a big thing in 50 years, so you probably dont need to worry ablut that. 4-5 years? If you're closer to the fire the more likely you are to get burned.I'm pretty sure in 4-5 if someone comes in trying to make the 'moochobigmoney' off pretty parlor name tags - I'm thinking it'll be easier to identify and point out in 5 years opposed to 50. Not sure that small amount of time would be harder. I'll still hopefully be around in 5 to point out the scammers if they show up, I can't account for 50 and who will be around to point it out. That's kind of the point I was making. We're sort of saying we want to control the system, but only for the next 5 years...but it's saying well, I'll be dead in 50 years so who cares about those collectors. It's almost like saying while I'm here I'm gonna care, which technically sounds almost like what I was saying.I'm not going to make all around statement that MLP will not be collectable in 50 years. I can't say that for sure, there are plenty of things that are 50 years old that people still want or want to see. At some point ponies will be considered antiques, actually I don't know at what point it crosses that threshold. But 5, 10, 20. I'd assume the concern about fake things would still be the same even if we're all dead and gone, right? But then again, being a realist here and knowing I can't control every situation.QuoteYes that it is easy for those who WANT to scam, to make repros that looks original, that doesnt mean we should make repros that looks exactly like the original, but try to prevent that it happens by mistake. I'm sorry, but to me it just sound a little lazy to just say "meh, its already easy for people to scam if they want to, so I dont care if people will be scamming others with my repros". Wow, lazy. Thanks?If I or my words are to be considered lazy, then I'm not sure what to say about those that insist on a forum that by stopping the responsible collectors from creating things or discussing them, that it's going to prevent the actual real life scammers from doing something?A lot of us have been here a long time, I don't think a majority of us are lazy or scammers, or I'd hope we wouldn't result to calling other collectors lazy. But I guess we are at that point. To me it's being more realistic to say, there are scammers and always have been. It's sorta like putting up a warning sign. There are bears in the woods. You probably will not get attacked but just be aware.I don't quite see how that is lazy? Does saying that mean I agree with scamming??? Does saying that suggest I'm not going to point out a scam when I see one???Not sure how being realistic about it means I'm lazy, but fine...I'm a lazy unicorn, I'll take it.QuoteI mean, its not a big deal to mark the repros with "repro" or a watermark, then you have done what you can, and wont have to worry any more. Errr, yea, I think almost everyone agreed ( I mean I didn't take a poll in the thread) but it seem to me like the general mood from everyone is that if IF IFFFFFF we made unique tags for ourselves we would try to put identification on it to show that it wasn't original. So I'm not sure why the constant insistence that we put ID's on the tags, when most of us seem to say we'd put ID's on what we make.QuoteAnd yes, there is always people that will be trying to pass on things as legit, but why make it easier for them? If the word repro is added somewhere on the product, it would probably rise questions even by the newest of collectors. Maybe put in big letters on the back: Lazy Collector
aaa Leikin, you said everything I wanted to say but could never have worded it nearly as well as you did!
Yes, THere WILL be scammers in the future. But with a repro mark that would be harder to do, wouldnt it?
Of course not. Why make it uglier? You can make it prettier if you want, or just alike. Just be sure to mark it accordingly (if they can be confused with originals)if they would ever change hands. (Mark it on the back, if you dont want it visible when displaying)