NSS help needed - Euro or UK?

[ZuluSeashell]

Hi knowledgeable pony people!

I k ow this isn’t truly ‘nirvana’ but I’m not sure where else to post it...

I hope you can help me with categorizing some of my pony variants.
Most were found whilst thrifting in France (my parents lived there for several years) and the rest I got as a child growing up in SOuth Africa.

My question is this:
I always kinda assumed all ponies with a SS version but with no flocking and non glittery symbols were from a NSS set released in the UK. I assumed this set was the same as the SS US set but just with no flocking. This would explain all those ponies with non glittery non metallic darker symbols. But whilst doing some googling I came accross Strawberry reef and see only very few ‘NSS’ on there under UK ponies.
Was there ever an official NSS set released and sold? If so what was it called? And who was in The set? Or was it just variations sold in various sets?

Because many of these ponies were found in France I am guessing they could be euro releases or UK releases purchased whilst people visited UK or other countries in Europe on holiday?

The ones I have from my childhood (bought in SA) are:
magenta tulips Posey
Cupcake
Truly
Shady.
But I understand cupcake truly and shady were sold in SA and Scandinavia in an entirely unique set along with Hopscotch so that could explain them.
(Cupcake confuses me though as Strawberry Reef puts her as a UK NSS but My Little Pony Scrapbook claims Cupcake was never ever sold in UK in any form...)

I also have (from thrifting in France):
Wind whistler
Gusty (Blue painted leaves)
North Star
Cherries jubilee (darker symbol)
Buttons
Which  I assumed were all NSS from one big set.
Am I wrong?

Any assistance would be most welcome... I am really wanting to get these ponies correctly classified.

Many thanks!!
Xxx
 

[Carrehz]

Others'll be able to help more but I just wanted to say, trust the MLP Scrapbook for UK things, over other sites. I think it's the most accurate source of info on the UK releases.

Also, Strawberry Reef hasn't been updated in a few years, so it's probably a bit out-of-date/inaccurate in places.

[ZuluSeashell]

Thx
Yes I have realized that since spending a few hours googling and researching. MLP scrapbook is very comprehensive and I think I’ve made a lot more sense out of things now...
And learnt a lot of new stuff too! For example my Gusty from childhood that I always thought was a regular UK release (because she had a UK backcard) is actually a Scandinavian Gusty with green eyes and glitter symbols and Glittery Gusty was never released in UK!! I never realized they never got the unicorns and Pegasus in the early years...
How interesting!
Thank you Tafetta and your amazing page! (I believe MLP scrapbook is your page)

[Leikin]

So it seems the Cupcake and Truly where released with the pony friend set in SA, the same as in Scandinavia.

Popular refered to as the Movie Star ponies (the set was called Ciné stars in france, as they where promoted along with MLP the movie) you have a varity of NSS versions sold in Europe. This set includes
Shady (also sold with other sets)
Wind Whistler
North Star
Magic Star (different pose)
Buttons (two versions)
Gusty (no glitter on symbols)

Then we had some releases where we bought had CJ with dark and light symbols, Lickety Split with dark and light Symbols, and Posey with dark and light symbols. This set also included both white and green Tootsie, so I assume it was divided in two releases but on the same card.  If I remember correct both Hopscotch and Snowflake where also part of this set.
The European early releases are a little messy at times, as they differ from country to country, and some ponies where released in several different sets

Sadly, many of the SS ponies never did get a NSS counterpart. I'm not all that found of flocked ponies

And I'm curious, do you still have the backcard for your Gusty?

[ZuluSeashell]

Yes it seems awfully complicated! Especially since many of them seem to have been released multiple times in different sets.

I do still have my Gusty backcard. NightGliderSA is going to post pics of all my old backcards on the SA thread (the one about SA play sets I think) so keep an eye out there...

[Leikin]

Yes, I think UK is the most well documented of the releases outside of the US, but there is still a lot of information to find from other countries ^^

Oh, sweet! Looking forward to see it.

[pinkkittywinks]

This subject would have been welcome in the corral as it features Euro ponies, so not technically nirvana

It is well worth remembering that there is no "one size fits all" when it comes to "placing" some ponies and releases and the ponies travel

The Scrapbook is correct on all facts UK and Euro based MLPwiki, Strawberry Reef and other websites do not have accurate Euro and UK information unfortunately. They are very US centric and the UK, Euro and Nirvana information doesn't fit well into that way of thinking

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook/

There was never a "Non-So-Soft Set" so to speak, rather a couple of releases over several years, which featured some of the "So-Soft" characters

Groom and Style 1985
Cherries, Lickety Split and Posey, got released with this set:)

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1985_earthponies.htm

My Little Pony set 1986
Including Snowflake, Gypsy, Hopscotch, Cherries Jubilee and Honeycomb.
Gypsy and Honeycomb were UK only, but the rest of Europe got Cherries, Snowflake and Hopscotch.

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1986_mylittlepony.htm

My Little Pony Set or Movie Stars or Cine Stars Set UK/Euro 1987
Shady, Magic Star, Buttons, Gusty (painted symbols), North Star and Wind Whistler

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1987_mylittlepony.htm

Pony Friends Set 1987
Part of this set is Cupcake and Truly They were NEVER sold in the UK. These were ere sold in Scandinavia, South Africa and Australasia and possibly else were.

The set also includes Posey, Hopscotch, Snowflake and Cherries Jubilee. I am not sure what "version" of Posey and Cherries were sold with that set and if there were other notable difference in eyeliner colour between them and the "standard" release.

Gusty
Glittery Gusty with the green eyes, she was she was sold in Scandinavia and also in Australia, but now we know she was sold in South Africa too thanks to you It is hardly surprising you own her thinking of the number of Truly and Cupcakes that crop up in South Africa.

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=471367

It IS confusing! I have to look it up everytime the subject coes up! (I couldn't remember it without Taffeta's website)

Love pkw xxxx

[NightGliderSA]

Yes it seems awfully complicated! Especially since many of them seem to have been released multiple times in different sets.

I do still have my Gusty backcard. NightGliderSA is going to post pics of all my old backcards on the SA thread (the one about SA play sets I think) so keep an eye out there...

The Gusty backcard has indeed been posted, but after reading through both threads I decided to post it all under the SA Ponies thread as that appeared to be where the majority of the discussion was taking place. ZuluSeashell kept quite a few of her backcards, including one for one of her SA Ponies. Go check it out 

[ZuluSeashell]

thanks PKW
Yes Taffeta’s website is awesome... I spent hours today researching on it (I should’ve been working haha) -and I’m so excited to have pretty much classified all my ‘NSS’ ponies (variants is a better word).
I think it was so long ago since I’ve been active in collecting that knowledge and info has come up and improved. Back then everything was just ‘NSS’  or ‘variant’ but no one really knew from where or when.
How awesome to finally discover where my childhood Gusty originated from!
(But now I need US Gusty haha)

SA really did get such mixture of ponies! It certainly seems likely that we got the same ranges that were destined for ‘other countries’ like Scandinavia and Australia. But I have many from the US releases in my childhood collection too... so interesting! This really is becoming a science 😄

[pinkkittywinks]

I've been looking at the backcards you posted in the other thread Nightlglider of Zuluseashell's backcards and collection.

I noticed Snowflakes card was a "Groom and Style" card NOT a "My Little Pony" card. This would explain how she was released outside of the UK without Honeycomb and Gypsy.

I have NEVER seen Scandi Gusty's card either, however I did know she was released with Powder in Scandinavia (just never seen the card)

Taffeta is going to love this

Love pkw xxx

[ZuluSeashell]

Yay! I’m glad my cards are useful!! Tenderly collected all those years ago just because I was a ‘particular’ little girl... never knew they’d be useful to many others!!

[pinkkittywinks]

These are so useful! So often they get lost or thrown away.

My back cards were "crafted" I'd cut the ponies out and create collage's with them

I still have two backcards, which I'd turned into advent calendars.

Love pkw xxx

[ZuluSeashell]

I so wish I had kept them all not only a few!
I used these as ‘backdrops’ in my big dolls house that my ponies all lived in as a kid... fortunately no cutting up was needed!

[Leikin]

Groom and Style 1985
Cherries, Lickety Split and Posey, got released with this set:)

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1985_earthponies.htm

I noticed Snowflakes card was a "Groom and Style" card NOT a "My Little Pony" card. This would explain how she was released outside of the UK without Honeycomb and Gypsy.

Yes, and I belive I have Hopscotch on that card also (cant wait to unpack my ponies, I'm starting to foget what I have ) Would make sense maybe if the set listed on the scrapbook was the first release, and the release continued on the same card (but not in UK) with the dark symbol versions of Posey, CJ and Lickety Split, white Tootsie instead of green, and then Bowtie and Applejack was replaced by Snowflake and Hopscotch.

My Little Pony set 1986
Including Snowflake, Gypsy, Hopscotch, Cherries Jubilee and Honeycomb.
Gypsy and Honeycomb were UK only, but the rest of Europe got Cherries, Snowflake and Hopscotch.

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1986_mylittlepony.htm

I belive Cherries Jubilee was exclusive to this set as well, as she is the short/straight hair version. I have not seen that version on any of the other cards.

[pinkkittywinks]

Thank you Leikin

The White HK Tootise in the gallery is on that same Groom and Style card

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=384150

So no AJ and Bow with that set? They were replaced with Hopscotch and Snowflake? Children must have been confused with the backcards then NOT showing those two ponies. I guess we CANNOT trust the backcards fully for this set!

It is starting to make sense with the "Italy" ponies as well since Italy Honeycomb and Gypsy were never made, but Hopscotch and Snowflake were, the same with Spain too...... it is starting to fall into place a little more for me.

I will have to update HK white Tootise's details in the gallery to explain which set she came with.

I think Taffeta would explode trying to fit all this information on her website. I don't think there is anywhere that has Euro release information clearly laid out. It is all a bit grey

Love pkw xxx