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Yeah the Pony Project had some awesome designs didn't it? Junko Mizuno did a great design but truly I would probably go all rabid-drool if Mana did a MLP design...
I honestly am not sure what VK is (is it like Japanese punk rock?), but man am I digging that aesthetic.
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on July 31, 2018, 06:53:27 PMI honestly am not sure what VK is (is it like Japanese punk rock?), but man am I digging that aesthetic.Music boundaries/genres in Japan are much more fluid than they are in the West in a lot of ways, but for the most part the Visual Kei type of artist tends to fit into that category.So personally, I'm not for this idea. I mean, I love Japan. I spend a lot of my life studying it, I speak the language, I've my fair share of cute things from there and I have a lot of Japanese music, including Visual Kei bands. So you'd think this would be right up my street. But for me MLP is MLP and it doesn't need to crossover with other genres or cultural entities. It's just my opinion of course, but I think that the ponies themselves having a different style is fine...I just don't like the idea of them having to be tied into another genre or franchise or theme. It's the same feeling for me as what I said in the thread about FIM and Kirins...I don't like the current fad to shove Asian stuff into everything because right now stuff from that part of the world is cool. FIM has failed in Japan so there's no real reason to expect any kind of meaningful crossover from that side of the world. I think it's fine to be a fan of these different things without needing to force them together. But that's just my personal input. I don't want to see MLP try to be a Japanese fan wannabe product instead of being MLP. I kind of find that stuff annoying.I have no issues with different art designs for the ponies themselves. I just don't like the idea of them being tied to something else, whether it be music, artists, anime, manga, etc.
I have no issues with different art designs for the ponies themselves. I just don't like the idea of them being tied to something else, whether it be music, artists, anime, manga, etc.
Quote from: Taffeta on August 01, 2018, 02:34:20 AMI have no issues with different art designs for the ponies themselves. I just don't like the idea of them being tied to something else, whether it be music, artists, anime, manga, etc.I'm not wild on the pop cultural references in FiM or even Tales, but where do you personally draw the line here?
Quote from: Zapper on August 01, 2018, 01:45:49 PMQuote from: Taffeta on August 01, 2018, 02:34:20 AMI have no issues with different art designs for the ponies themselves. I just don't like the idea of them being tied to something else, whether it be music, artists, anime, manga, etc.I'm not wild on the pop cultural references in FiM or even Tales, but where do you personally draw the line here?I cropped your post, but to clarify, I don't like any of these kinds of associations or pop culture references in MLP. So Lady Gaga, nope. Sia, nope. I hate all of it, personally. I didn't like it with the art ponies in G3 and I hate it in G4. The only reason the Asian connection annoys me so much is because it's something I generally spend more time around because of what I study. So I maybe notice more when people try to force that into stuff rather than other cultural material. I think it annoys me more than other stuff like Greek or Norse because I know more about the cultural aspects of Japan than I do Greece or Scandinavia and so am more likely to notice something off...that's all. And as I said in the other thread, it's not the inclusion but the manner of it.@Nightmaremuffin - I don't watch the G4 animation, it doesn't appeal to me. When I have watched it, there's too much of a superiority complex on the part of the ponies towards other species and that grates with me. It reflects our real world rather too much and not in a good way.Regarding your other question - I don't like the Takara ponies particularly, but they are different from what you're suggesting. You're talking about connecting a cultural art form from Japan with MLP, whereas the Takara were a Japanese attempt to cash in on 1980s MLP in a format they thought would appeal. I first knew about Takara ponies around 16 years ago but it's only in the last several years that it's become an expensive fad toy to collect...I don't really know why, I guess Takara fans will know better. To me Takara is a Nirvana, and that's where it ends.As for Kimono, what's your point? I remember there was a discussion a while back about her lanterns being 'Chinese' but I was in Japan at the time, and I saw a lot of lanterns around that matched Kimono's symbol exactly. I don't have an issue with her name or her theme, because again, it's not trying to link her as a pony with some completely unrelated other art form or element of pop culture. It's just a pony with a name that happens to be a Japanese word. Besides, Kimono doesn't bother me because her name and her symbol all make sense within the context of a Japanese matsuri.There's nothing logical about a pony suddenly becoming intertwined with a Visual Kei act. At least, that is how I feel about it.