The Fridge Brillance of G1 Pegasus Ponies

[Faeriefalls]

This is a really neat thing to consider. I would love to think this was a deliberate easter egg for their character inspirations!

[MJNSEIFER]

I um... only meant "second language" metaphorically.  You know like how people who are fans of something would understand terms a lot quicker than outsiders would.  I wasn't saying that you had to research the terms or anything - just that you'd be amazed at how quickly you start knowing the terms and when to use them, if you do frequent TV Tropes often.  Like you'd see a scene and know exactly what tropes to think of when you see them, and even that was exaggerating.

I wasn't saying that only a person who goes to TV Tropes would know the terms either.  I was just speaking "metaphorically" if that's the right word. 

Sorry for saying the wrong thing.

[Taffeta]

I agree that fans of something would understand more quickly than those who don't, which is really my point in all of this. It's understandable to use pony jargon here because this is a pony community and we're more or less going to be able to find out those terms. Using external terms that might not be known by everyone really do need clarifying. I didn't have an issue with it until you called it a 'second language' as though people ought to be fluent in external community terminology to understand a post in this forum.

I don't know the term and I don't care about the external source of it. It's been explained and that was enough for me. Now you've clarified, we're all good. I just think your post could have been better phrased.

Jargon is generally designed to unite people or exclude them depending how it is used. Pony jargon here is inclusive because it belongs to all of us, though I am sure there are a lot of people still confused by some of those terms (hence the Arena list). External jargon only includes those who know its meaning. I didn't like the implication that not knowing somehow made us at fault, or that we ought to be learning irrelevant vocabulary to participate in the thread.

[Marlin]

I couldn't be certain how deliberate the observations/connections are, but they are a lovely consideration!

[Al-1701]

Let's get back on topic with direct comparison between pegasi and the muses.

-Calliope: Muse of Epic Poetry - Firefly (maybe not much of a poet but always up for an epic)
-Clio: Muse of History - Paradise
-Euterpe: Muse of Music - Medley
-Erato: Muse of Love Poetry - Heart Throb (obviously)
-Melpomene: Muse of Tragedy - Tough (MLP has never been big on tragedy let alone base a pony around it), but Masquerade is perhaps the closest as an actress
Polyhymnia: Muse of Hymns - Wind Whistler (singing fits her comic persona and Polyhymnia's reserved personality fits her animated one)
-Terpsichore: Muse of Dance - Skydancer/Dancing Butterflies
-Thalia: Muse of Comedy - Surprise
-Urania: Muse of Astronomy - she's represented by globes and compasses so North Star

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I think Firefly more corresponds with Pegasus' role as carrier of Zeus' thunderbolts

[Taffeta]

I think Paradise fits more with the epic. Epics are great and long stories of history and legend intertwined together and are often designed to be performed, especially in a Greek context. Paradise is a storyteller. There isn't much difference between storytelling and history at some points in the past, but I still think Firefly has nothing to do with epic. That would definitely be Paradise.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Yeah, miss "Danger is my life!" fits more as the subject of an epic than as its teller

[Leave a Whisper]

Yeah, miss "Danger is my life!" fits more as the subject of an epic than as its teller

But an epic is the story about heroes and great feats.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Yeah, miss "Danger is my life!" fits more as the subject of an epic than as its teller

But an epic is the story about heroes and great feats.

And you're saying Firefly isn't a hero who has performed great feats?

[Leave a Whisper]

Yeah, miss "Danger is my life!" fits more as the subject of an epic than as its teller

But an epic is the story about heroes and great feats.

And you're saying Firefly isn't a hero who has performed great feats?

What I mean is, an Epic is the story itself.

You don't exactly have time to write/recite a story while your kicking dragons in the face and playing keep away with Tirek. The Epic, Saga, Story, Legend, Myth, Tale, what-have-you comes after, when your feats have been recorded and told to others.

[brightberry]

I thought that as a kid too.  But only because until MLP the only other wide spread use of colorful Pegasus I knew of was a segment from Disney's Fantasia which was very Greek themed too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_EDBM1tOEo

In fact there is a scene with the little black pegasis jumping into the air just like Ember did in the first My Little Pony cartoon.  It's hard for me not to think some inspiration came from Fantasia.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Yeah, miss "Danger is my life!" fits more as the subject of an epic than as its teller

But an epic is the story about heroes and great feats.

And you're saying Firefly isn't a hero who has performed great feats?

What I mean is, an Epic is the story itself.

You don't exactly have time to write/recite a story while your kicking dragons in the face and playing keep away with Tirek. The Epic, Saga, Story, Legend, Myth, Tale, what-have-you comes after, when your feats have been recorded and told to others.

Which is why I said Firefly worked better as the SUBJECT of an epic. As in, the one the epic is about

[Leave a Whisper]

Whatever. I'm not gonna argue about this anymore.

[Al-1701]

Yeah, miss "Danger is my life!" fits more as the subject of an epic than as its teller

But an epic is the story about heroes and great feats.

And you're saying Firefly isn't a hero who has performed great feats?

What I mean is, an Epic is the story itself.

You don't exactly have time to write/recite a story while your kicking dragons in the face and playing keep away with Tirek. The Epic, Saga, Story, Legend, Myth, Tale, what-have-you comes after, when your feats have been recorded and told to others.

Which is why I said Firefly worked better as the SUBJECT of an epic. As in, the one the epic is about

Yeah.  I would see Firefly just throw the writing tablet aside and say (forget writing epics, I want to live them).  The thing is, Paradise is really Calliope and Clio in one.