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Quote from: Jocelyn on July 22, 2017, 05:01:55 PMIt would be a little awkward if there were a second "reboot"...Would we call it G4.75? If they did another reboot I would call it MLP redonkulous
It would be a little awkward if there were a second "reboot"...Would we call it G4.75?
Quote from: sd_dreamcrystal on July 22, 2017, 05:24:26 PMQuote from: Jocelyn on July 22, 2017, 05:01:55 PMIt would be a little awkward if there were a second "reboot"...Would we call it G4.75? If they did another reboot I would call it MLP redonkulous This is some thing to think about. And wouldn't the same argument for calling it "new" also apply to calling it "reboot"? Every redesign is a "reboot". Unless in later generations it is always qualified with the G4 moniker, I.e. The G4 reboot. But in that case G4.5 is just faster type. That may be the deciding factor in the end.Also, some people are saying this isn't G5 because it's the same cast. But Care Bears, Strawberry Shortcake, Rainbow Bright, TMNT, etc, all have multiple "generations" but the same cast. And I suspect that Hasbro is not going to let go of this cast even when G5 does come around. Don't get me wrong, this is clearly not G5 if only because FIM has become such a driving force behind this generation that I can't see labeling anything as g5 until FIM is over.So I guess my criteria for labeling something G5 would be a whole line redesign that happens after FiM is over.Edited to add additional thoughts****I also think there is a difference between this redesign and the Sweetheart Sisters (Dream Beauties were a whole nother line). A: SHS were marketed as teenage ponies not redesigned adult ponies. B: Hasbro conveniently gave them their own label we could call them by and C: non of the SHS were rereleases of old characters. If I want a specific SHS, I can just refer to her by name.With this current redesign, if I come on the board and say I'm looking to purchase a specific Fluttershy then I have to go through a whole list of descriptors to make sure I get the one I want.I don't know what the solution is. Maybe just use pose names? But then we all have to agree on pose names.
Well someone pointed out that G1 had some drastic design changes in the SHS and Dream Beauties and they didn't get called G1.5. I agree with them, so that's why I personally don't call them that.
But the Pony Bride, SHS, etc were in addition to the regular G1 molds - not in replacement of them. G3.5 replaced G3, so it got a different designation. If they suddenly go back to using the old G4 molds then I agree that these reboot ponies probably don't need a different name. But right now, it really doesn't look like that'll be the case :s
I think it might be better to firmly label the new style after the line ends, if that makes sense...I personally think a new generation overall requires a new setting/style/concept completely. This TV series has not changed between the old and new moulds, they have just updated those moulds, so it is not G5. I am not bothered by G4.5 as a suggestion, it makes sense to me but it bothers some people. There isn't a case for G1.5 for me because G1 came before the G label happened, and we didn't need those labels until G3 came out, so there never has been any division. And as others have said, new styles went alongside old ones.If Hasbro go back to old moulds then these new style ones are just new poses within the same generation. If everything from now till the end of the line is in this style, then when it ends there's a case for G4.5. Right now we just don't know.
G4 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯The only real reason they would be called something else is because they're replacing the old molds. But unlike G3.5, it's not a different design at all, just different molds. Nothing else is notably different.
Only if they revamp the line to actual pastel donkeys and mules...and demon donkeys.
I've been calling them G4 Reboot because I remember the G3.5 line wasn't just a change in molds or packaing, it was an entire re-branding of the characters, a completely new art style, new cartoons and the bodies were drastically altered. Like they were solid with HUGE heads nothing at all like the current ponies. All the new toys were based on new illustrations and cartoons but had similar characters. The change in G4 isn't as drastic b/c the toys are actually meant to look more like the original characters, not something completely new. Also, with the exception of the movie shading and style, the original cartoon is not changing and the art style on the boxes isn't that drastic. We can all agree it's not G5 ... at all. But G4.5 vs G4 Reboot remains to be seen. I think and believes it's G4 Reboot but i wouldn't be upset if G4.5 was adapted. Maybe we need a different name for them besides G4 Reboot that everyone likes? (I think G4.5 is too extreme).