Unpopular Pony Opinions

[Leave a Whisper]

FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom. That's not even an unpopular opinion. Its plain simple truth. And just as ludicrous a fallacy as saying that new DC fans are bigger then the entire group of DC fans as a whole.

[SpacePinto]

FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom.

And thank heavens!

[Taffeta]

FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom.

And thank heavens!

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.

[Leave a Whisper]

FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom.

And thank heavens!

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.

 I'll to that!

[Khoufu]

 

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.

I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it.

[SpacePinto]

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.

I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it.

You want the nice ones to go, too?

[Taffeta]

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.

I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it.

You want the nice ones to go, too?

Or believes all of us are crazy already...

[lalalei2001]

I like Munchy!

[Lady Frostbite]

Gilda Did Nothing Wrong prior to her turn in the town square (i.e. her interactions with Pinkie)

[Khoufu]

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.

I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it.

You want the nice ones to go, too?

Or believes all of us are crazy already...

It's a secret!

[freezestime]

I have to admit, the finale has left me with a sorrowful yet comforting feeling. But if I may, I'd like to voice some things I believe Hasbro changed from Lauren Fausts story.

Spoiler

I believe Twilight is a semi false princess, with the biggest piece of evidence is what we see with Cadence and some of her off screen back story. Princesses have always had a strong, consistent talent since a very early age.

With Cadence, despite being born a pegasus she had always displayed a love for everyone and valued everyone. Same with Celestia and Luna, they've always had a special connection to the sun and moon respectively.

When we are first introduced to Twilight, she has no time for friends, only studying magic and is given the task of moving to Ponyville. She's also shown to be mostly associated with magic (hence special talent and with the elements of harmony, she is the literal element of magic, which has defined a large part of her life) so I believe that Twilight was maybe supposed to become a princess and be the princess of magic. Not the princess of friendship.

Because it does make sense for both Twilight and Cadence to be kinda unrelated but still be related. Everyone needs love, in the MLP universe and ours. And magic, is a complete necessary in their world to function, while in our world we need it in a different way.

And another thing that I believe Hasbro changed was the Cutie Mark Crusaders Cutie Marks. I believe Faust meant for the three of them have their own individual Cutie Mark, with Apple Bloom having an apple cutie mark, Sweetie Belle to be a singer and Scootaloo to be a stunt woman (through the slightly visible symbol inside their Cutie Mark)

I mean, in their own universe having 3 non related ponies have nearly identical Cutie Marks would be absolutely astounding (I'm saying non blood related in relation to Flim and Flam, who are twins and thick as thieves so it'd make sense for them to have nearly identical Cutie Marks)

Also a smaller nitpick is that Cheese Sandwhich and Pinkie Pie has a daughter that's a literal combination of the two, not a semi related Cutie Mark but idk that's probably just me.

And I have more issues with a lot more things but I'll leave them for now.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

[Zapper]

Hasbro changed from Lauren Fausts story.

Well, this is a fun conspiracy theory but let me dissect this a little.

You refer to FiM as "Faust's story" while all the other writers and showrunners are supposed to be "Hasbro".
Lauren Faust was working for Hasbro just as much as all the other writers and she reveived help from other writers with writing her own episodes. So how much do we know was actually her?

Without "Hasbro" we wouldn't have gotten Cadance because "Hasbro" wanted a pink princess and a wedding (so goes the legend). S2 still had Lauren on board. So how do we know if Cadance was part of "Lauren's story" or "Hasbro's"?

Spoiler

About the fake princess thing...
The show is literally called "friendship is magic". Friendship fuels the most powerful magic in Equestria. Twilight is a magic prophecy and the only kick she needed was to open up to friendship to reach her full potential.
They even alluded heavily to Sunset Shimmer being chosen before Twilight was. But Sunset wasn't able to "unlock" friendship. Instead she fled into a different dimension and bullied others there. She only came around when the better student, Twilight, showed her the way.

So storywise, I don't really see the problem in Twilight not really being a real Princess of Friendship or not having a strong connection to friendship.

Sunset could have technically been in her place (thusly also crushing the constant Mary Sue accusations) but Lauren Faust infamously disliked Equestria Girls. It honestly looks (just my opinion, I have no proof) more like Lauren did not want her to be anything but the "leader" of the group while other writers saw the potential in her being a princess, both to sell toys and to close her arc (of course we know now they had only three seasons planned when she was crowned, resulting in Twilight being a semi-bad Princess in later seasons. They simply failed at writing in a more believable character progression).

[Leave a Whisper]

I have to admit, the finale has left me with a sorrowful yet comforting feeling. But if I may, I'd like to voice some things I believe Hasbro changed from Lauren Fausts story.

Spoiler

I believe Twilight is a semi false princess, with the biggest piece of evidence is what we see with Cadence and some of her off screen back story. Princesses have always had a strong, consistent talent since a very early age.

With Cadence, despite being born a pegasus she had always displayed a love for everyone and valued everyone. Same with Celestia and Luna, they've always had a special connection to the sun and moon respectively.

When we are first introduced to Twilight, she has no time for friends, only studying magic and is given the task of moving to Ponyville. She's also shown to be mostly associated with magic (hence special talent and with the elements of harmony, she is the literal element of magic, which has defined a large part of her life) so I believe that Twilight was maybe supposed to become a princess and be the princess of magic. Not the princess of friendship.

Because it does make sense for both Twilight and Cadence to be kinda unrelated but still be related. Everyone needs love, in the MLP universe and ours. And magic, is a complete necessary in their world to function, while in our world we need it in a different way.

And another thing that I believe Hasbro changed was the Cutie Mark Crusaders Cutie Marks. I believe Faust meant for the three of them have their own individual Cutie Mark, with Apple Bloom having an apple cutie mark, Sweetie Belle to be a singer and Scootaloo to be a stunt woman (through the slightly visible symbol inside their Cutie Mark)

I mean, in their own universe having 3 non related ponies have nearly identical Cutie Marks would be absolutely astounding (I'm saying non blood related in relation to Flim and Flam, who are twins and thick as thieves so it'd make sense for them to have nearly identical Cutie Marks)

Also a smaller nitpick is that Cheese Sandwhich and Pinkie Pie has a daughter that's a literal combination of the two, not a semi related Cutie Mark but idk that's probably just me.

And I have more issues with a lot more things but I'll leave them for now.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

No. You see, many writers have worked for Hasbro. Just as many artists and toy designers have worked for Hasbro.

I do agree that Twilight isn't very good at the Friendship thing. Though that's more due to Hasbro's ham-fisted attempts at moralizing.

The moral of the story is, Don't attempt to Moralize Hasbroken, you suck at it.

[Carrehz]

Honestly I think calling any TV show "so-and-so's story" is kind of a logical fallacy. TV shows are made by lots of people, not just one! :p

[MJNSEIFER]

I have heard that Lauren was involved in Princess Cadance's creation (which back then I took to mean she created her, but of course, that's not what the sentence says), but she wasn't an alicorn back then, and Lauren was surprised when she found that this was the direction "Hasbro" took.

This isn't really related to what was said, but I've realised that I may finally be able to put my views on Lauren into perspective;

I will admit, that my first assumption is that the show creator is the one steering the ship, as it where, or at least attempting to, while he or she is still on board.  So my first assumption was always that Lauren at least came up with the story, but I know that is not always the case, since they had a writers room full of writers, so all of them probably came up with stories - it was Lauren's show back then, but I doubt that she did everything - she is one person.  I know there are times when you just have to do what the company wants you to do, as well.

I have no idea how much (if any) of the season 1 (and possibly season 2) episodes were Lauren's ideas, and how many were the ideas of the writers who actually wrote them (or even other writers.)  They probably would have said something like "Story by Lauren Faust", as well as "Written by" whichever writer if this was the case, but I don't know if that's mandatory (episodes with more than one writer credited everyone, though) and it seems strange if Lauren didn't put more of her own storylines in, considering she came up with some when she played with her toys (though she may have not remembered them.)

So yeah, my go to assumption back then was that Lauren came up with the stories, and then the writers did the episodes, unless specified otherwise, but that was simply what I thought (and wanted to think) back then. 

I will admit, that a lot of my "Lauren did everything!" mentality back in the day was because I was soaking up the comments that seemed to be saying "Lauren did next to nothing!", so I felt she was underappreciated - they probably weren't even saying that, they may have been simply responding to the people who supposedly put her on a pedestal, but I never saw any of that (or I simply didn't take it in.)  All I took notice of was comments saying that she did three (or two) episodes and that was it, and it looked like people were saying she didn't deserve praise, and I sympathized with her.

I now realise that it is unlikely that she came up with all the episodes, if she came up with any that we know she did, but I still like to assume that while she was around, she had some input on what happened, but I also assume that anything could have come from any of the then current writers. 

It would be good if we could hear what her plans were for the characters, like what would she have done if she was still in control of the show, at least beginning with how things were in season one, or even how she envisioned things would go before season 1 was complete (with the stuff that never got passed the development stage.)  I'd like to hear all the versions she's got dating back to the Concept Six, personally.  Though I don't know if she'd like to talk about it...

Either way, I continue to respect her as a person, a creator, and a writer.