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[Vertefae]

I think $25 now and $25 when the postal claim clears is fair. I don't think it's either of your faults and neither should be punished.

[Skeen]

I think $25 now and $25 when the postal claim clears is fair. I don't think it's either of your faults and neither should be punished.

Agreed.    I've received things shipped in Styrofoam boxes as well and those things are practically unbreakable.  It sounds like it's the PO's fault somehow, not Thunderwing's, so she shouldn't bear the brunt of the punishment.  This way, neither one of you bears more than the other, it just takes a bit longer to reach the same conclusion. 

[NoDivision]

I think $25 now and $25 when the postal claim clears is fair. I don't think it's either of your faults and neither should be punished.

Agreed.    I've received things shipped in Styrofoam boxes as well and those things are practically unbreakable.  It sounds like it's the PO's fault somehow, not Thunderwing's, so she shouldn't bear the brunt of the punishment.  This way, neither one of you bears more than the other, it just takes a bit longer to reach the same conclusion. 

Yup, I think this is fair as well.

It takes time. That's how postal insurance works. You have to file claims and go through a crazy process to get your money back. So that's what thunderwing is doing. A little patience and understanding goes a long way and it seems like thunderwing has done nothing wrong and is going through the proper steps to file to get that money back.

[HoustonCollector72]

I do not agree  , I did not pay in installments
I paid at once 185 dllrs for the 3 items
I only got 2 and being suspected/accused of theft of the missing item
gives me no confidence on this deal she is presenting

[lunar_scythe]

Boy this thread is full of hot tempers, accusations, and so on!  I wish I could send deep breaths and calming thoughts toward everyone involved. *hugs*

No one is saying you are a thief, houstoncollector. Just that you need to be willing to compromise a little; the seller is out money and ponies too.

I'm trying to be delicate here, and not make things worse, but you seem to be saying the same things about the seller, and she's being very patient still trying to work things out with you.

You are BOTH long term members here, both with 100+ Positive feedback. 

[Skeen]

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it. 

[HoustonCollector72]

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it.

  Yep ,she does work on it on low priority and lack of concern, when i first contacted her about this, her response was  .I will get to the post office on my day off to inquire about the missing item
her day off was 2 days later
again no confidence on this seller

Post Merge: December 16, 2014, 09:37:22 AM

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it.

Because I do not trust this seller anymore ,easy as that
closing my claim on paypal will end any claim for the rest of the money, I will pretty much never see the money again ,and it is my money I decide not the members of the Arena
or are you all going to pay me if she doesn't ???

[CoonhoundBetty]

Are you being deliberately hard to work with? Her day off was 2 days away--even I, a stay-at-home mom, can't make it to the post office on a whim. You need to relax a bit, because you're really ruining your rep on the Arena, no one is going to want to work with you after your attitude towards this.

You're still getting your money back. I honestly wonder why you're being so obstinate.

[cloud_weaver]

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it.

  Yep ,she does work on it on low priority and lack of concern, when i first contacted her about this, her response was  .I will get to the post office on my day off to inquire about the missing item
her day off was 2 days later
again no confidence on this seller

Post Merge: December 16, 2014, 09:37:22 AM

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it.

Because I do not trust this seller anymore ,easy as that
closing my claim on paypal will end any claim for the rest of the money, I will pretty much never see the money again ,and it is my money I decide not the members of the Arena
or are you all going to pay me if she doesn't ???

I personally have worked with Thunderwing and can vouch for her as an upstanding member of the community.  If she wasn't, she wouldn't have started this thread trying to resolve the situation.  She very well could have said you two could fight it out over paypal, but rather she sought help here in trying to rectify the situation to the best of her ability.

I understand the payment doesn't sound like a wonderful option to you, but she too, is going to be out money and I think waiting for the claim to clear will be in the best interest of both.  It does seem like something went wrong in transit and to accuse Thunderwing over and over doesn't seem very fair.

As to the delay in getting back with you - I am fairly sure it's not because she didn't want to rectify it and get things sorted.  If it were me, I would be taking time to try and figure out the best way to fix it, and think it through.  And to be honest, we all do have an outside life as well, and it is the holidays.  A little grace might go a long way here.

[HoustonCollector72]

Are you being deliberately hard to work with? Her day off was 2 days away--even I, a stay-at-home mom, can't make it to the post office on a whim. You need to relax a bit, because you're really ruining your rep on the Arena, no one is going to want to work with you after your attitude towards this.

You're still getting your money back. I honestly wonder why you're being so obstinate.

My attitude ??  I'm enraged about being accused of theft and being denied my refund
I do not take this calmly ,sorry ,a phone call to the post office is not going to take you away from the kids and your home.
I have no doubt your intentions are well but threatening me with  no one wanting to work with me does not speak well of the community either , Am I  suppose to take her promise as a money to the bank ?? I do not think so , I pay fast and I work well with RESPONSIBLE sellers , I do not take well her accusations and lack of concern, I have worked with many sellers over here and they have always been flawless.

put yourself in my place  before you start making threats and judgments here

[lunar_scythe]

I'm going to be blunt here, since trying to be nice about it doesn't seem to be working. 

Houstoncollector, after reading this thread, I have no interest in making any kind of trade or sale with you, ever.  You are being very accusing in your comments, to the point where I would not sell anything to you for fear of being accused of the same things. You say openly that you don't trust the seller, accuse her of theft, accuse her of fraud, of scamming you, but the least hint that you might be making her worry the same things,  and you get VERY upset!

[HoustonCollector72]

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it.

  Yep ,she does work on it on low priority and lack of concern, when i first contacted her about this, her response was  .I will get to the post office on my day off to inquire about the missing item
her day off was 2 days later
again no confidence on this seller

Post Merge: December 16, 2014, 09:37:22 AM

Why does being paid in installments matter?  You still get the same amount of money back. 

And, you're accusing Thunderwing of theft too.  Do you think that leaves her with a feeling of confidence?  She's doing everything she can the correct way.  Just as you're not willing to trash your rep for $50, neither is she.  That's why she's working on it.

Because I do not trust this seller anymore ,easy as that
closing my claim on paypal will end any claim for the rest of the money, I will pretty much never see the money again ,and it is my money I decide not the members of the Arena
or are you all going to pay me if she doesn't ???

I personally have worked with Thunderwing and can vouch for her as an upstanding member of the community.  If she wasn't, she wouldn't have started this thread trying to resolve the situation.  She very well could have said you two could fight it out over paypal, but rather she sought help here in trying to rectify the situation to the best of her ability.

I understand the payment doesn't sound like a wonderful option to you, but she too, is going to be out money and I think waiting for the claim to clear will be in the best interest of both.  It does seem like something went wrong in transit and to accuse Thunderwing over and over doesn't seem very fair.

As to the delay in getting back with you - I am fairly sure it's not because she didn't want to rectify it and get things sorted.  If it were me, I would be taking time to try and figure out the best way to fix it, and think it through.  And to be honest, we all do have an outside life as well, and it is the holidays.  A little grace might go a long way here.

This thread was created by her to fish for evidence  against me ,not to work things with me
accusing me with thread over and over do not sit well , on her privates messages she even tells me  she has not found any bad report of me 
and then goes on saying the same thing she has posted here, that the PO will never do such a thing as to repackaged a pony,and what does that tell you ? ,to me :She is telling me to my face that I did it !!! that i repackaged her box to steal a pony and get money from her and therefore no refund will be given
how would you take that if you were the buyer ?




Post Merge: December 16, 2014, 10:27:47 AM

I'm going to be blunt here, since trying to be nice about it doesn't seem to be working. 

Houstoncollector, after reading this thread, I have no interest in making any kind of trade or sale with you, ever.  You are being very accusing in your comments, to the point where I would not sell anything to you for fear of being accused of the same things. You say openly that you don't trust the seller, accuse her of theft, accuse her of fraud, of scamming you, but the least hint that you might be making her worry the same things,  and you get VERY upset!

She initiated this thread as "witch hunt" and accusations ,not me
I'm defending myself of her accusations
If you agree with her way of dealing with this situation I for sure would not want to have any dealings with anyone who agrees with her

[Artemesia's Garden]

What a shame!

[HoustonCollector72]

What a shame!

  I agree ,this is how the community will treat you for speaking up against a situation or a seller who did not deliver what was paid.
but guess this is why she started this thread to push her agenda : Shame and Threat the buyer to shut him up

[Stormy31685]

What a shame!

  I agree ,this is how the community will treat you for speaking up against a situation or a seller who did not deliver what was paid.
but guess this is why she started this thread to push her agenda : Shame and Threat the buyer to shut him up

Houston, don't drag the community into one big collective here.  Good sellers make good buyers just as good buyers make good sellers.  It takes two to tango.  Also, the qualifications for being a "good buyer" in my opinion, are not simply limited to whether or not they paid immediately and got back to me in a timely manner. 

Thunderwing's concerns were not out of line, just as your desires to be immediately refunded and frustrations over being accused were not unreasonable at first.

Thunder more than likely called the PO and was informed that the repacking was completely not normal and may have even been the ones to encourage her to question you since the postal system refuses to take responsibility for anything.  So if you want to blame someone, you might start with the Postal employee she spoke with.

What is unreasonable, has been your attitude throughout.  You are getting a refund, so why all the negativity? 

And as for your reputations, Thunderwing has been a member since 2003.  I doubt 11 years of buying, selling, and trading would be sacrificed for $50. 

And yours has been good also.

It is clear that both of you have proven yourself to be good traders with reputability.

I just don't understand how you have been so miserable about all of this.

Thunderwing, refund him all his money and his shipping he feels he is owed, and PM me with a list of what you have for sale.

For goodness sake, I will gladly buy something from you for $62.